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The Kutchie's Key Lime Pie Mystery Part 1: Overview, Theories and Leads

2020.09.11 00:04 CaptKutchiesTA The Kutchie's Key Lime Pie Mystery Part 1: Overview, Theories and Leads

The mystery of Captain Kutchie and his key lime pie has haunted the internet for over a decade now.It’s been extensively written on elsewhere, so I won’t spend long on the details I assume many already know, so check this link for some more in-depth info (https://www.reddit.com/UnresolvedMysteries/comments/9wo93c/other_an_indepth_look_at_kutchies_key_lime_pies/ )
The basis of the mystery though, is that since 2010, an individual or group has been writing cryptic, bizarrely written rants on various websites about a restaurant called Captain Kutchie’s Key West Cafe, usually focusing on either the key lime pies served at this restaurant, or the owner, Oswald “Kutchie” Paleaz. For a long time, it was unclear that Kutchie’s actually existed, but it was eventually discovered that the restaurant did exist, and was open from the 1970s until 2009, at the address 2227-2201 Asheville Hwy, Hendersonville, NC 2879. The messages about Kutchie’s have turned up in various places throughout the internet, but they usually share a common format. Here is one sample:
“I Tried The Captain Kutchie’s Key Lime Pies And Those PieGasams Healed All My Symptoms Within The First 4-Weeks! I highly Recommend Captain Kutchie’s Key Lime Pies For Anything That Ails You!….(“They’re Great”!!!.).. .. …Kobe Bryant May Be Retiring From Basket Ball But Captain Kutchie’s Is Still His Pie Of Choice!… …Can’t Get Enough Of That Key Lime Pie, Key Lime Pie, Key Lime Pie. Can’t Get Enough Of That Key Lime Pie Or I’ll Just Cry Until I Die, I Don’t Know Why I Just Love My Key Lime Pies!…. .\ .”
So, this is a typical example of what the posts look like, showing many of the common hallmarks: non-syntactic sentences, Capitalization Of Every Word, references to celebrities or politicians liking the pies and an odd radio-announcer like tone are some hallmarks of the writing style, though it can vary. It isn’t hard to see why, after finding these messages strewn across the internet like litter by the side of a freeway, people have gotten sucked into the investigation, and become suspicious of deeper meanings.
This 2-part longpost is going to be looking through the various writings of the mysterious poster over the years and the theories surrounding them, eventually leading up to my own personal quest to solve the mystery, and the findings I’ve made. I do not have a true wrap-up to this case, but I believe I have done the most in-depth research of anyone up until now, and I have discovered some hitherto unexplored leads. First, a look at the theories surrounding the case posited by other investigators over the years:
A Bot- This is a common theory due to the connection to a business, and the fact that the poster seems to respond to certain keywords (topics involving pie, sex, politics, and baby boomer pop culture). However, I think this one can be dismissed out of hand, the reason being that accounts connected to Kutchie’s have engaged and responded to people in a non-botlike way. More on that later. Beyond that, I can’t see any reason for someone to program such a bot, since there’s nothing to be gained from having a bot spend a decade posting nonsense about a defunct restaurant.
Oswald Pelaez himself- This is another one I’ve seen a few times, the assumption being that the posts are the Captain having a senior moment, or just fucking around in his old age. A visit to Pelaez’s Facebook page shows that he did indeed have a word-salad writing style, albeit not the exact same as the Kutchie's poster. However, it seems unlikely that this was the case, as a Redditor reported having contacted one of Pelaez’s sons, and finding that the Pelaez family appeared equally baffled.
An autistic or schizophrenic individual with a fixation on the restaurant: This suggestion derives from the unique writing style and monomaniacal interest of the poster. I have seen mental health professionals weighing in saying that the stream-of-conscious nature of the posts recalls their patients. I think people are drawn to this explanation because it puts something of a wholesome spin on the mystery- an individual with social/cognitive difficulties had a good experience at the restaurant while growing up in Asheville all those years ago, and now he wants to tell the internet about it in his one way. However, as again shown through communications with the poster, they are able to switch out of their “posting voice” and become more lucid, which may put this theory into doubt, or at least implies that the individual behind the posts is more high-functioning and calculating.
Coded messages or communications- This is a natural theory- the idea is that these posts are the modern equivalent of the Cold War number’s stations, broadcasting messages which can be read by the public, but are incomprehensible except to those privy to the info on how to decode it. The immediate problem with this theory is that the slow pace, repetitious nature, and semi-random web addresses of the postings would seem to make it hard to hide code in them. How would the recipients of the code even know where to look? However, there is also the possibility that it’s simply an individual screaming his coded messages into the void, to taunt people or conceal his intentions from all but a skilled codebreaker, rather like the Zodiac Killer or the Duclod Man. Why would this individual choose to hide his messages in the form of posts about a defunct restaurant? Who can say?
So, those are the major theories floating around out there regarding who the poster is. As we can see, a few of these theories can be dismissed out of hand, and one can potentially poke holes in all of them. Now that we’ve looked at the theories, it’s time for an overview of the posts themselves, as they have appeared over the past 10 years:
Foodio54- (http://foodio54.com/restaurant/South-Asheville-Arden-NC/c2e5c/Kutchies-Key-West-Kutcharitaville-Cafe) This restaurant review site hosts four separate reviews of Kutchie’s Key West Cafe. All four of these reviews are clearly written in the same style, and they were written over the course of several years. The oldest one here is by a user named VinnyGambini, after the character in My Cousin Vinny. Dating from December 2009, this may be the single oldest Kutchie’s post.
“Kutch Makes All Those Key Lime Pies From Real Ingredients, Including Real Key Lime Juice. "Anita" Kutchie's Lovely Wife Helps Him Now Making All Those Pies. She Also Runs The Front Too, As Well As The Office. Yea, Keep It All In The Family. Now That's How You Get Quality Control. "Pop", Kutchie's Dad Has Always Been There To Help From The Beginning. Kutchie's Mom Even Helped Out Until She Passed Away Several Years Ago. Threw The 80's Kutch and Anita Had Three Sons, Carlo, Santino and Joseph. Kutch Calls Them His Three Amigo's. All Three Sons Were Raised There In The Restaurant And Have Learned All Aspects Of The Business, From The Dish Tank, Mopping Floors, Cutting Meats, Serving Tables, Cooking And Tending Bar. Kutch Said That His First Road Sign Listed At The Bottom, "Family Restaurant". Kutch Said, "At That Time He Had No Idea That Someday His Whole Family Would Be The Ones Working There". Well I Guess, That's Life. Sometimes I Call Kutch and Ask Him How Are Things Going, He Says "Just Another Day In Paradise". Shit, I Can Tell That He Is Sick And Tired Of Doing The Same Old Thing Day-In And Day-Out. Kutch Would Never Admit That, He'll Probably Keep That Place Open To Train His Grand Kids The Business. Kutch Has Many People Calling, All The Time, Wanting Him To Start An On-Line Business To Sell His Key Lime Pies Country Wide. I Don't Know If He Can Bake That Many. He Seems Pretty Pushed As It Is. He Says That Maybe Someday He Will Throw Up Another Building And Put A Key Lime Pie Factory In It, And Start A Web-Site. May-Be He Will, May-Be He Wont, Who Knows. Just Don't Tell Him, That He Can't. “
Here, the poster refers to Oswald’s wife, Anita. He also accurately names Oswald’s three sons. I don’t know how many records about Oswald Pelaez were online in 2009, so I’m not sure whether the poster would have needed to know the family to have this information. The next oldest post is from 2012, and curiously, does not capitalize every word like most Kutchie’s posts. This poster signs their name as “Betty Joe Walker''. A Google search shows that there was one person with that name (there are a few other Betty Jo Walkers, but only one spelled J-o-e). Walker was a native of central North Carolina. And she died at the age of 67, one year before the post was made. This was the finding that made me start thinking of this mystery as something sinister. Why would a bot, or an individual simply sharing his happy memories, steal a dead person’s name? Two more Restaurant54 reviews of Kutchies’s date to 2013, and contain pretty standard content for the poster. One of them uses the name “Jake Carson'', which is used by this poster in other places as well.
Ozgold.com- Around 2012, the poster began writing posts claiming that Captain Kutchie was giving aways millions of dollars in prizes, and linking to a now defunct site called Ozgold.com. All of these posts can be found in a Pastebin here: https://pastebin.com/bT1z5ywT. He even links to Pelaez’s phone number in one of these. Oddly, he takes a negative tone towards Pelaez in some of these posts, writing in one “Please, Please, Please warn everyone about about ozsgold.com and Mr. OZ, That SOB has to be a crook or just plume loco. Maybe another Bernie Madoff, who the hell knows? It just ain't right.” Of course, this gold giveaway never existed either way as far as I can tell.
The copy-paste messages-
In 2013, the frequency of Kutchie’s posting really skyrocketed. IMDB, cooking sites, Fanfiction.net, Google Books reviews- nowhere was safe. Of course, the poster was mainly drawn in by particular key-topics: Pie, restaurants in genera, sex, politics, baby-boomer celebrities such as Johnny Carson. A few usernames were commonly employed for these posts: Roger Ramjet, Willie Jordan and Jake Carson. Most of these messages would be exact or near-exact copy pastes of one another. Some common topics of these posts included:
Key Lime Pies and Goody-goody Cheeseburgers- As far as can be gleaned from surviving ads, the restaurant prided itself on serving a variety of steaks and seafoods, but the key lime pies and burgers (which the poster always refers to as “goody-goody cheeseburgers”) seem to have been what made an impression to this person/bot/secret cabal. Occasionally, the poster will also reference Kutchie’s “prime ribs of beef with swamp water”. What does that mean- who knows?
Oswald’s wife, Anita Pelaez- generally refers to her as “lovely” or “hot”. "It just doesn't get any better than seeing her," as it appears.
The proximity of the restaurant to the Biltmore Estate- The Biltmore Estate was the home of George Vanderbilt II, and is by far the largest private residence ever built in America. It also happens to be located in Asheville. It seems as though the poster is trying to advertise the restaurant’s proximity to a major tourist attraction- heedless of the fact that the restaurant is closed.
Orgasms- Describing food as “better than sex” isn’t too weird, but our poster really likes to stretch out this saying. He refers to the food as giving him “piegasms” which he implies restored his sexual vitality. Here’s an excerpt of an example from the Google Books reviews of a book called “Incredible Orgasms”, by Marcelle Perks:
“.I Do Know First Hand That The Pelaez’s Famous Key Lime Pies Have The Ability To Turn Small Stream Squirters Into Major League Gushers Or Some Might Call Them “Niagara Falls”. Holly Molly, Let Those Good Times Flow, Baby! ….It’s No Wonder Everyone Believes That Kutchie Pelaez Is The Most Interesting Man In The World…..”Damn He Really Is” For Sure! …..That “Kutchie”, He Looks Marvelous Dahling!… ….”Hemingway”, Had Nothing On The “KutchMan”… ….Someone Overheard The “Kutchman” Say One Day That He Thought That He Was A Lesbian!… We Don’t Want To see Him Coming Out Of The Toilet With Just His Dick In His Hands”
Older Facebook Posts-
To my knowledge, at least three Facebook accounts have been linked to Kutchie's poster over the years. The oldest, operated from 2013-2016 is Jake Carson: https://www.facebook.com/jake.carson.98284/friends. The “Jake Carson” previously showed up as one of the reviewer names on Foodio54. The name bears resemblance to Johnny Carson, another obsession of the poster. This account had no friends, no photos or video uploaded, and never deviated from copy pasting the same few messages over and over. The Carson account was prolific in 2014, often posting 3-5 times/day. The frequency of posts eventually tapered, the last one being made in 2016. 2016 was also the year that the copy-pasted comments on various websites stopped appearing with regularity. Some people believe that the real Kutchie’s poster stopped at this point, and everything after 2016 has been trolls appropriating the role. As we will see, however, the post-2016 posts indicate an equally bizarre and committed writer, which makes it seem unlikely that it’s a different person.
The second Kutchie’s Facebook account appears in 2017. This is another personal account, which goes by the name Kutchie Pelaez. This is one of the main reasons some people think it isn’t operated by the same person- because the poster never previously claimed to be Captain Kutchie (though he did claim to have worked there in some posts). Unlike Jake Carson, Kutchie Pelaez doesn’t post copypasted messages. He does, however, have a variety of artists and musicians liked, including this band, The Ritards, with whom he has the following interaction: https://www.facebook.com/theritards/reviews/?ref=page_internal. What’s curious though, is that beyond this Facebook page, there is little indication that The Ritards actually exist. They have no music uploaded anywhere online, nor are there concert dates. Their posts do have a few likes though, most from people in the Eastern Pennsylvania area. When I messaged the Facebook page to ask what they knew about Captain Kutchie, my post was marked as “seen” almost immediately, even though the page has not been updated in two years. I received no response, however. While The Ritards seemed to be a dead-end, the Eastern PA music scene will prove to be important.
Also notable re: the Kutchie Pelaez Facebook page is the encounter Reddit user u/carinhabsburg had with the account, documented here: https://www.reddit.com/UnresolvedMysteries/comments/5c7g4m/what_the_captain_kutchie_of_the_key_lime_pies/. They messaged the account to ask who Kutchie was. He replied by sending a paragraph of text from a demo version of Silent Hill, which was in Swedish. While u/carinhapsburg was Swedish, they were adamant that there was no way Kutchie should have known that. Referencing a modern video game is certainly out of character for the boomer-persona the Kutchie’s poster had built up, so you can certainly see why some think the post-2016 poster is a different person. However, the vaguely sinister tone of this interaction is not exactly without precedent, given that the poster was already stealing a dead woman’s name in 2012.
Deviantart- The same year that the Kutchie Pelaez Facebook debuted, a Devientart with the same profile picture debuted- https://www.deviantart.com/captainkutchie. The bio of this account ascribes a variety of odd attributes to Captain Kutchie- His favorite gaming platform? “A sidewalk large enough for a heated round of hopscotch or marbles.”
His favourite books? “Epidemically overrated teen paperback novels. Ikea instruction manuals.”
His “Tools of the Trade?” “My fists. Spells and potions.”
The accounts gallery posts are now deleted, and I unfortunately did not take any screenshots. There were three paragraphs that they copypsted over and over- one about Anita Pelaez and Kutchie’s prime rib, one excerpt from a Longmont Potion Castle bit, and one Charles Manson quote. Longmont Potion Castle is an anonymous individual who has recorded their prank calls since the early 90s. Since anonymity and the adoption of absurd personas are LPC’s hallmarks, it’s not hard to see why the Kutchie’s poster chooses to quote them. The Manson quote, while tying in to the poster’s obsession with famous people of the 60s and 70s, adds another deeply sinister element to the mystery.
Patti Salmon-
In 2018, the poster begins writing about Captain Kutchie’s under the name Patti Salmon (a pun on salmon patties?) These posts are differentiated from the past ones by their explicit political anger. While politics were already noted as one of the poster’s obsessions, Patti Salmon goes on disparaging rants, only loosely tied back to the restaurant, against liberal political figures.
This is an excerpt from a comment under a blog post about the Kutchie’s mystery (also indicating that the poster is self-aware of the mystery community’s interest in them):
“That Rep. Jerry Nadler (D) NY, Rag Head llhan Omar (D) Minn, Alex Ocasio-Horetez (D) NY, Ayanna Lesbo Pressley (D) Mass.., Rashida Tlaib (D) Mich., Al Green (D) Tx., Pocahantas Vermont Tribe with Bernie Sanders, Nervous Nancy Cookville Calf., Rachel Madnow (MSNBC), Robert De Negro (NY), Shifty Schiff Cookvill Calf., El Chapo, Bozo O’ Rourke (Who Cares)., Maxine Impeach Waters Cookville Calf., Woopi Goldbrick (ABC)., Joy Blowhard (ABC)., Rainny Hostin (ABC)., Juan Williams (FOX NEWS)., Adoff Hilter (HELL)., Hell-They’re All really some kind of Commie’s ? Impeach Them NOW!!! Oh, I forgot one, The Rev. Al Not-So-Sharpton, very interesting butt Stupid! Let’s Send them all to the moon for the next 50 Years! What would Chef Captain Kutchie Pelaez Say? Well, He would probably say something like “No Soup For You!!!”. “Come Back 50 years”. Or something like for all those “Politicos” “Stay Away From Those Manholes” and he would say “Don’t Get None On Ya!”. Anyway, we sure-do still agree with all those “Kutcharitaville and Chef Captain Kutchie Pelaez Reports that everyone has been posting for the last 25 years or however long this internet thing has been going on. Captain Kutchie has been World Famous way longer than this stupid internet for damn sure. You can take that to the bank, Thats’ GOLD Jerry it’s GOLD! Or put it in your pipe and smoke it. He would also say, All of today’s Anti Trumpers are mad because, they were promised by The Dragon Lady HerSelf “Hillary Clinton” a leading Membership in Hillary’s 666 New World Order! What makes all these Racist, Commie Leftest Liberal Wannabee everything for nothing AssHoles and they’re Scum Sucking Pig, Fake News Chicken-Shit, Ass Licking Fake Reporters think that they can outsmart our “Lord Christ Jesus”? Hillary, your lord Satan was defeated way back on The Cross and yet, YOU, continue to deceive and recruit all those weak souls that you can fool too follow you back home straight too HELL!”
Note the interest in conspiracy theories here.
Newer Facebook Posts-
Finally, we come to the newest Facebook account, this one a page for a business rather than a personal account- Kutchie’s Key West Kutcharitaville Cafe (not linked here, gonna go ahead and say Do Not Interact). This page debuted in July 2020, just weeks before I fell down the Kutchie’s rabbithole and began this investigation. Unsurprisingly given its recency, it does not appear to have been discovered by anyone else in the mystery community.
The earliest posts from this page are simply shares of Jake Carson’s posts from several years prior. On July 12th, the Kutcharitaville page began posting longer messages, at a rate of 5+ every day. These posts are nonsensical jumbles of words that appear in other Kutchie’s posts, and appear to have been created by either a bot, or one of those story generators where you feed paragraphs in and it tries to rearrange them syntactically. Here’s a sample from a much longer post.
“BILTMORE HOUSE AND WE LOVELY ANITA PELAEZ IS THE PELAEZ IS THE WORLD THEY EVERYONE S KEY WEST FAME LOCATED NEAR THE BEST AND GRILL WHERE THE BILLED AS THE LOVELY COUPLE S KEY WEST FAME LOCATED NEAR THE MEL FISHER HE THOSE GOOD NEWS NOT A LESBIAN ANITA S BEST AND GRILL WHERE THE LOVELY COUPLE S BEST AND GRILL WHERE THE LOVELY COUPLE HOUSE AND THEY EVERYONE S SEX RATES BY KUTCHIE S BEST AND WE LOVELY COUPLE S SEX RATES BY NO LESS THAN HIS FATHER THEY EVERYONE S GOOD NEWS NOT A WIN WIN WIN FOR ANYTHING ON THE DOG ATE YOURS DICK IN THE PELAEZ OVER AND TREASURE MUCH MORE ANITA PELAEZ AND HER FAMOUS DEEP SEA UNDERWATER AND HER FAMOUS KEY WEST FAME MAY”
Interspersed with these posts are excerpts from North Carolinian newspapers that reference the restaurant, and photos of the exterior and interior of the abandoned building. What’s interesting is that the photos of the building don’t appear to be from anywhere on the internet. In other words, that means the poster must have actually gone to the building, and either broken in or been let in. This is the reason why I, as stated earlier, think that the post-2016 posts do come from the same individual as the older ones. The level of obsession indicated here is not that of a troll or a LARPer. It’s that of someone truly devoted to an inscrutable cause. Interestingly, one of these posts received a like from the Kutchie Pelaez account, indicating it was still active too in July 2020.
More recently, the account began posting coherent sentences that bear no relation to Captain Kutchie or key lime pies. In a post from July 28th, the poster copypastes the phrase “mail dropped to Rhode Island” 35 times, and below that “From Delaware.” Another post copies the phrase “My brother was eaten by wolves on the Connecticut turnpike,” which is a line from the Stephen King story “1408”.
On July 31st, the poster writes “Carrie Lam is not nice with China. She will end floating in a water tank”, copying this phrase dozens of times. This appears to be a macabre pun on the shared surnames of Carrie Lam, controversial mayor of Hong-Kong, and Elisa Lam, a woman who drowned in a water tank under circumstances that have made her story a fixture in the online unsolved-mysteries community. At the time of writing, the most recent post is from August 25th, and reads
“USE [master] Mexico. Mexico. Mexico. Soon we are in Mexico. (+14) and in we go. GO”
Screencaps of some posts, for posterity: https://imgur.com/gallery/R8ssLw6
This is the current status of the Kutchie’s poster. Dark, cryptic phrases, repeated on a Facebook page to 69 followers. Next, I’m going to be posting about the results of my personal investigation into the Kutchie’s mystery, featuring my interactions with this account, among others.
Edit
I have made a significant error in my post. The owner of the restaurant was Oswald Pelaez Jr, nor senior, and Anita was his wife, while Polly was his father's wife. So Captain Kutchie is still alive, I believe
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2020.09.10 23:04 CaptKutchiesTA The Kutchie's Key Lime Pie Mystery Part 1: Overview, Theories and Leads

The mystery of Captain Kutchie and his key lime pie has haunted the internet for over a decade now.It’s been extensively written on elsewhere, so I won’t spend long on the details I assume many already know, so check this link for some more in-depth info (https://www.reddit.com/UnresolvedMysteries/comments/9wo93c/other_an_indepth_look_at_kutchies_key_lime_pies/ )
The basis of the mystery though, is that since 2010, an individual or group has been writing cryptic, bizarrely written rants on various websites about a restaurant called Captain Kutchie’s Key West Cafe, usually focusing on either the key lime pies served at this restaurant, or the owner, Oswald “Kutchie” Paleaz. For a long time, it was unclear that Kutchie’s actually existed, but it was eventually discovered that the restaurant did exist, and was open from the 1970s until 2009, at the address 2227-2201 Asheville Hwy, Hendersonville, NC 2879. The messages about Kutchie’s have turned up in various places throughout the internet, but they usually share a common format. Here is one sample:
“I Tried The Captain Kutchie’s Key Lime Pies And Those PieGasams Healed All My Symptoms Within The First 4-Weeks! I highly Recommend Captain Kutchie’s Key Lime Pies For Anything That Ails You!….(“They’re Great”!!!.).. .. …Kobe Bryant May Be Retiring From Basket Ball But Captain Kutchie’s Is Still His Pie Of Choice!… …Can’t Get Enough Of That Key Lime Pie, Key Lime Pie, Key Lime Pie. Can’t Get Enough Of That Key Lime Pie Or I’ll Just Cry Until I Die, I Don’t Know Why I Just Love My Key Lime Pies!…. .\ .”
So, this is a typical example of what the posts look like, showing many of the common hallmarks: non-syntactic sentences, Capitalization Of Every Word, references to celebrities or politicians liking the pies and an odd radio-announcer like tone are some hallmarks of the writing style, though it can vary. It isn’t hard to see why, after finding these messages strewn across the internet like litter by the side of a freeway, people have gotten sucked into the investigation, and become suspicious of deeper meanings.
This 2-part longpost is going to be looking through the various writings of the mysterious poster over the years and the theories surrounding them, eventually leading up to my own personal quest to solve the mystery, and the findings I’ve made. I do not have a true wrap-up to this case, but I believe I have done the most in-depth research of anyone up until now, and I have discovered some hitherto unexplored leads. First, a look at the theories surrounding the case posited by other investigators over the years:
A Bot- This is a common theory due to the connection to a business, and the fact that the poster seems to respond to certain keywords (topics involving pie, sex, politics, and baby boomer pop culture). However, I think this one can be dismissed out of hand, the reason being that accounts connected to Kutchie’s have engaged and responded to people in a non-botlike way. More on that later. Beyond that, I can’t see any reason for someone to program such a bot, since there’s nothing to be gained from having a bot spend a decade posting nonsense about a defunct restaurant.
Oswald Pelaez himself- This is another one I’ve seen a few times, the assumption being that the posts are the Captain having a senior moment, or just fucking around in his old age. A visit to Pelaez’s Facebook page shows that he did indeed have a word-salad writing style, albeit not the exact same as the Kutchie's poster. However, it seems unlikely that this was the case, as a Redditor reported having contacted one of Pelaez’s sons, and finding that the Pelaez family appeared equally baffled.
An autistic or schizophrenic individual with a fixation on the restaurant: This suggestion derives from the unique writing style and monomaniacal interest of the poster. I have seen mental health professionals weighing in saying that the stream-of-conscious nature of the posts recalls their patients. I think people are drawn to this explanation because it puts something of a wholesome spin on the mystery- an individual with social/cognitive difficulties had a good experience at the restaurant while growing up in Asheville all those years ago, and now he wants to tell the internet about it in his one way. However, as again shown through communications with the poster, they are able to switch out of their “posting voice” and become more lucid, which may put this theory into doubt, or at least implies that the individual behind the posts is more high-functioning and calculating.
Coded messages or communications- This is a natural theory- the idea is that these posts are the modern equivalent of the Cold War number’s stations, broadcasting messages which can be read by the public, but are incomprehensible except to those privy to the info on how to decode it. The immediate problem with this theory is that the slow pace, repetitious nature, and semi-random web addresses of the postings would seem to make it hard to hide code in them. How would the recipients of the code even know where to look? However, there is also the possibility that it’s simply an individual screaming his coded messages into the void, to taunt people or conceal his intentions from all but a skilled codebreaker, rather like the Zodiac Killer or the Duclod Man. Why would this individual choose to hide his messages in the form of posts about a defunct restaurant? Who can say?
So, those are the major theories floating around out there regarding who the poster is. As we can see, a few of these theories can be dismissed out of hand, and one can potentially poke holes in all of them. Now that we’ve looked at the theories, it’s time for an overview of the posts themselves, as they have appeared over the past 10 years:
Foodio54- (http://foodio54.com/restaurant/South-Asheville-Arden-NC/c2e5c/Kutchies-Key-West-Kutcharitaville-Cafe) This restaurant review site hosts four separate reviews of Kutchie’s Key West Cafe. All four of these reviews are clearly written in the same style, and they were written over the course of several years. The oldest one here is by a user named VinnyGambini, after the character in My Cousin Vinny. Dating from December 2009, this may be the single oldest Kutchie’s post.
“Kutch Makes All Those Key Lime Pies From Real Ingredients, Including Real Key Lime Juice. "Anita" Kutchie's Lovely Wife Helps Him Now Making All Those Pies. She Also Runs The Front Too, As Well As The Office. Yea, Keep It All In The Family. Now That's How You Get Quality Control. "Pop", Kutchie's Dad Has Always Been There To Help From The Beginning. Kutchie's Mom Even Helped Out Until She Passed Away Several Years Ago. Threw The 80's Kutch and Anita Had Three Sons, Carlo, Santino and Joseph. Kutch Calls Them His Three Amigo's. All Three Sons Were Raised There In The Restaurant And Have Learned All Aspects Of The Business, From The Dish Tank, Mopping Floors, Cutting Meats, Serving Tables, Cooking And Tending Bar. Kutch Said That His First Road Sign Listed At The Bottom, "Family Restaurant". Kutch Said, "At That Time He Had No Idea That Someday His Whole Family Would Be The Ones Working There". Well I Guess, That's Life. Sometimes I Call Kutch and Ask Him How Are Things Going, He Says "Just Another Day In Paradise". Shit, I Can Tell That He Is Sick And Tired Of Doing The Same Old Thing Day-In And Day-Out. Kutch Would Never Admit That, He'll Probably Keep That Place Open To Train His Grand Kids The Business. Kutch Has Many People Calling, All The Time, Wanting Him To Start An On-Line Business To Sell His Key Lime Pies Country Wide. I Don't Know If He Can Bake That Many. He Seems Pretty Pushed As It Is. He Says That Maybe Someday He Will Throw Up Another Building And Put A Key Lime Pie Factory In It, And Start A Web-Site. May-Be He Will, May-Be He Wont, Who Knows. Just Don't Tell Him, That He Can't. “
Here, the poster refers to Oswald’s wife, Anita. He also accurately names Oswald’s three sons. I don’t know how many records about Oswald Pelaez were online in 2009, so I’m not sure whether the poster would have needed to know the family to have this information. The next oldest post is from 2012, and curiously, does not capitalize every word like most Kutchie’s posts. This poster signs their name as “Betty Joe Walker''. A Google search shows that there was one person with that name (there are a few other Betty Jo Walkers, but only one spelled J-o-e). Walker was a native of central North Carolina. And she died at the age of 67, one year before the post was made. This was the finding that made me start thinking of this mystery as something sinister. Why would a bot, or an individual simply sharing his happy memories, steal a dead person’s name? Two more Restaurant54 reviews of Kutchies’s date to 2013, and contain pretty standard content for the poster. One of them uses the name “Jake Carson'', which is used by this poster in other places as well.
Ozgold.com- Around 2012, the poster began writing posts claiming that Captain Kutchie was giving aways millions of dollars in prizes, and linking to a now defunct site called Ozgold.com. All of these posts can be found in a Pastebin here: https://pastebin.com/bT1z5ywT. He even links to Pelaez’s phone number in one of these. Oddly, he takes a negative tone towards Pelaez in some of these posts, writing in one “Please, Please, Please warn everyone about about ozsgold.com and Mr. OZ, That SOB has to be a crook or just plume loco. Maybe another Bernie Madoff, who the hell knows? It just ain't right.” Of course, this gold giveaway never existed either way as far as I can tell.
The copy-paste messages-
In 2013, the frequency of Kutchie’s posting really skyrocketed. IMDB, cooking sites, Fanfiction.net, Google Books reviews- nowhere was safe. Of course, the poster was mainly drawn in by particular key-topics: Pie, restaurants in genera, sex, politics, baby-boomer celebrities such as Johnny Carson. A few usernames were commonly employed for these posts: Roger Ramjet, Willie Jordan and Jake Carson. Most of these messages would be exact or near-exact copy pastes of one another. Some common topics of these posts included:
Key Lime Pies and Goody-goody Cheeseburgers- As far as can be gleaned from surviving ads, the restaurant prided itself on serving a variety of steaks and seafoods, but the key lime pies and burgers (which the poster always refers to as “goody-goody cheeseburgers”) seem to have been what made an impression to this person/bot/secret cabal. Occasionally, the poster will also reference Kutchie’s “prime ribs of beef with swamp water”. What does that mean- who knows?
Oswald’s wife, Anita Pelaez- generally refers to her as “lovely” or “hot”. "It just doesn't get any better than seeing her," as it appears.
The proximity of the restaurant to the Biltmore Estate- The Biltmore Estate was the home of George Vanderbilt II, and is by far the largest private residence ever built in America. It also happens to be located in Asheville. It seems as though the poster is trying to advertise the restaurant’s proximity to a major tourist attraction- heedless of the fact that the restaurant is closed.
Orgasms- Describing food as “better than sex” isn’t too weird, but our poster really likes to stretch out this saying. He refers to the food as giving him “piegasms” which he implies restored his sexual vitality. Here’s an excerpt of an example from the Google Books reviews of a book called “Incredible Orgasms”, by Marcelle Perks:
“.I Do Know First Hand That The Pelaez’s Famous Key Lime Pies Have The Ability To Turn Small Stream Squirters Into Major League Gushers Or Some Might Call Them “Niagara Falls”. Holly Molly, Let Those Good Times Flow, Baby! ….It’s No Wonder Everyone Believes That Kutchie Pelaez Is The Most Interesting Man In The World…..”Damn He Really Is” For Sure! …..That “Kutchie”, He Looks Marvelous Dahling!… ….”Hemingway”, Had Nothing On The “KutchMan”… ….Someone Overheard The “Kutchman” Say One Day That He Thought That He Was A Lesbian!… We Don’t Want To see Him Coming Out Of The Toilet With Just His Dick In His Hands”
Older Facebook Posts-
To my knowledge, at least three Facebook accounts have been linked to Kutchie's poster over the years. The oldest, operated from 2013-2016 is Jake Carson: https://www.facebook.com/jake.carson.98284/friends. The “Jake Carson” previously showed up as one of the reviewer names on Foodio54. The name bears resemblance to Johnny Carson, another obsession of the poster. This account had no friends, no photos or video uploaded, and never deviated from copy pasting the same few messages over and over. The Carson account was prolific in 2014, often posting 3-5 times/day. The frequency of posts eventually tapered, the last one being made in 2016. 2016 was also the year that the copy-pasted comments on various websites stopped appearing with regularity. Some people believe that the real Kutchie’s poster stopped at this point, and everything after 2016 has been trolls appropriating the role. As we will see, however, the post-2016 posts indicate an equally bizarre and committed writer, which makes it seem unlikely that it’s a different person.
The second Kutchie’s Facebook account appears in 2017. This is another personal account, which goes by the name Kutchie Pelaez. This is one of the main reasons some people think it isn’t operated by the same person- because the poster never previously claimed to be Captain Kutchie (though he did claim to have worked there in some posts). Unlike Jake Carson, Kutchie Pelaez doesn’t post copypasted messages. He does, however, have a variety of artists and musicians liked, including this band, The Ritards, with whom he has the following interaction: https://www.facebook.com/theritards/reviews/?ref=page_internal. What’s curious though, is that beyond this Facebook page, there is little indication that The Ritards actually exist. They have no music uploaded anywhere online, nor are there concert dates. Their posts do have a few likes though, most from people in the Eastern Pennsylvania area. When I messaged the Facebook page to ask what they knew about Captain Kutchie, my post was marked as “seen” almost immediately, even though the page has not been updated in two years. I received no response, however. While The Ritards seemed to be a dead-end, the Eastern PA music scene will prove to be important.
Also notable re: the Kutchie Pelaez Facebook page is the encounter Reddit user u/carinhabsburg had with the account, documented here: https://www.reddit.com/UnresolvedMysteries/comments/5c7g4m/what_the_captain_kutchie_of_the_key_lime_pies/. They messaged the account to ask who Kutchie was. He replied by sending a paragraph of text from a demo version of Silent Hill, which was in Swedish. While u/carinhapsburg was Swedish, they were adamant that there was no way Kutchie should have known that. Referencing a modern video game is certainly out of character for the boomer-persona the Kutchie’s poster had built up, so you can certainly see why some think the post-2016 poster is a different person. However, the vaguely sinister tone of this interaction is not exactly without precedent, given that the poster was already stealing a dead woman’s name in 2012.
Deviantart- The same year that the Kutchie Pelaez Facebook debuted, a Devientart with the same profile picture debuted- https://www.deviantart.com/captainkutchie. The bio of this account ascribes a variety of odd attributes to Captain Kutchie- His favorite gaming platform? “A sidewalk large enough for a heated round of hopscotch or marbles.”
His favourite books? “Epidemically overrated teen paperback novels. Ikea instruction manuals.”
His “Tools of the Trade?” “My fists. Spells and potions.”
The accounts gallery posts are now deleted, and I unfortunately did not take any screenshots. There were three paragraphs that they copypsted over and over- one about Anita Pelaez and Kutchie’s prime rib, one excerpt from a Longmont Potion Castle bit, and one Charles Manson quote. Longmont Potion Castle is an anonymous individual who has recorded their prank calls since the early 90s. Since anonymity and the adoption of absurd personas are LPC’s hallmarks, it’s not hard to see why the Kutchie’s poster chooses to quote them. The Manson quote, while tying in to the poster’s obsession with famous people of the 60s and 70s, adds another deeply sinister element to the mystery.
Patti Salmon-
In 2018, the poster begins writing about Captain Kutchie’s under the name Patti Salmon (a pun on salmon patties?) These posts are differentiated from the past ones by their explicit political anger. While politics were already noted as one of the poster’s obsessions, Patti Salmon goes on disparaging rants, only loosely tied back to the restaurant, against liberal political figures.
This is an excerpt from a comment under a blog post about the Kutchie’s mystery (also indicating that the poster is self-aware of the mystery community’s interest in them):
“That Rep. Jerry Nadler (D) NY, Rag Head llhan Omar (D) Minn, Alex Ocasio-Horetez (D) NY, Ayanna Lesbo Pressley (D) Mass.., Rashida Tlaib (D) Mich., Al Green (D) Tx., Pocahantas Vermont Tribe with Bernie Sanders, Nervous Nancy Cookville Calf., Rachel Madnow (MSNBC), Robert De Negro (NY), Shifty Schiff Cookvill Calf., El Chapo, Bozo O’ Rourke (Who Cares)., Maxine Impeach Waters Cookville Calf., Woopi Goldbrick (ABC)., Joy Blowhard (ABC)., Rainny Hostin (ABC)., Juan Williams (FOX NEWS)., Adoff Hilter (HELL)., Hell-They’re All really some kind of Commie’s ? Impeach Them NOW!!! Oh, I forgot one, The Rev. Al Not-So-Sharpton, very interesting butt Stupid! Let’s Send them all to the moon for the next 50 Years! What would Chef Captain Kutchie Pelaez Say? Well, He would probably say something like “No Soup For You!!!”. “Come Back 50 years”. Or something like for all those “Politicos” “Stay Away From Those Manholes” and he would say “Don’t Get None On Ya!”. Anyway, we sure-do still agree with all those “Kutcharitaville and Chef Captain Kutchie Pelaez Reports that everyone has been posting for the last 25 years or however long this internet thing has been going on. Captain Kutchie has been World Famous way longer than this stupid internet for damn sure. You can take that to the bank, Thats’ GOLD Jerry it’s GOLD! Or put it in your pipe and smoke it. He would also say, All of today’s Anti Trumpers are mad because, they were promised by The Dragon Lady HerSelf “Hillary Clinton” a leading Membership in Hillary’s 666 New World Order! What makes all these Racist, Commie Leftest Liberal Wannabee everything for nothing AssHoles and they’re Scum Sucking Pig, Fake News Chicken-Shit, Ass Licking Fake Reporters think that they can outsmart our “Lord Christ Jesus”? Hillary, your lord Satan was defeated way back on The Cross and yet, YOU, continue to deceive and recruit all those weak souls that you can fool too follow you back home straight too HELL!”
Note the interest in conspiracy theories here.
Newer Facebook Posts-
Finally, we come to the newest Facebook account, this one a page for a business rather than a personal account- Kutchie’s Key West Kutcharitaville Cafe (not linked here, gonna go ahead and say Do Not Interact). This page debuted in July 2020, just weeks before I fell down the Kutchie’s rabbithole and began this investigation. Unsurprisingly given its recency, it does not appear to have been discovered by anyone else in the mystery community.
The earliest posts from this page are simply shares of Jake Carson’s posts from several years prior. On July 12th, the Kutcharitaville page began posting longer messages, at a rate of 5+ every day. These posts are nonsensical jumbles of words that appear in other Kutchie’s posts, and appear to have been created by either a bot, or one of those story generators where you feed paragraphs in and it tries to rearrange them syntactically. Here’s a sample from a much longer post.
“BILTMORE HOUSE AND WE LOVELY ANITA PELAEZ IS THE PELAEZ IS THE WORLD THEY EVERYONE S KEY WEST FAME LOCATED NEAR THE BEST AND GRILL WHERE THE BILLED AS THE LOVELY COUPLE S KEY WEST FAME LOCATED NEAR THE MEL FISHER HE THOSE GOOD NEWS NOT A LESBIAN ANITA S BEST AND GRILL WHERE THE LOVELY COUPLE S BEST AND GRILL WHERE THE LOVELY COUPLE HOUSE AND THEY EVERYONE S SEX RATES BY KUTCHIE S BEST AND WE LOVELY COUPLE S SEX RATES BY NO LESS THAN HIS FATHER THEY EVERYONE S GOOD NEWS NOT A WIN WIN WIN FOR ANYTHING ON THE DOG ATE YOURS DICK IN THE PELAEZ OVER AND TREASURE MUCH MORE ANITA PELAEZ AND HER FAMOUS DEEP SEA UNDERWATER AND HER FAMOUS KEY WEST FAME MAY”
Interspersed with these posts are excerpts from North Carolinian newspapers that reference the restaurant, and photos of the exterior and interior of the abandoned building. What’s interesting is that the photos of the building don’t appear to be from anywhere on the internet. In other words, that means the poster must have actually gone to the building, and either broken in or been let in. This is the reason why I, as stated earlier, think that the post-2016 posts do come from the same individual as the older ones. The level of obsession indicated here is not that of a troll or a LARPer. It’s that of someone truly devoted to an inscrutable cause. Interestingly, one of these posts received a like from the Kutchie Pelaez account, indicating it was still active too in July 2020.
More recently, the account began posting coherent sentences that bear no relation to Captain Kutchie or key lime pies. In a post from July 28th, the poster copypastes the phrase “mail dropped to Rhode Island” 35 times, and below that “From Delaware.” Another post copies the phrase “My brother was eaten by wolves on the Connecticut turnpike,” which is a line from the Stephen King story “1408”.
On July 31st, the poster writes “Carrie Lam is not nice with China. She will end floating in a water tank”, copying this phrase dozens of times. This appears to be a macabre pun on the shared surnames of Carrie Lam, controversial mayor of Hong-Kong, and Elisa Lam, a woman who drowned in a water tank under circumstances that have made her story a fixture in the online unsolved-mysteries community. At the time of writing, the most recent post is from August 25th, and reads
“USE [master] Mexico. Mexico. Mexico. Soon we are in Mexico. (+14) and in we go. GO”
Screencaps of some posts, for posterity: https://imgur.com/gallery/R8ssLw6
This is the current status of the Kutchie’s poster. Dark, cryptic phrases, repeated on a Facebook page to 69 followers. Next, I’m going to be posting about the results of my personal investigation into the Kutchie’s mystery, featuring my interactions with this account, among others.
Edit
I have made a significant error in my post. The owner of the restaurant was Oswald Pelaez Jr, nor senior, and Anita was his wife, while Polly was his father's wife. So Captain Kutchie is still alive, I believe
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2020.03.10 11:45 Fwoggie2 Covid-19 update Tuesday March 10th

Good morning from the UK.

Virus statistics

Region Today Yesterday % Change
Global 113,672 101,923 +11.5%
China 80,924 80,565 +0.4%
Italy 9,172 7,375 +24.4%
South Korea 7,513 7,382 +1.8%
Iran 7,161 6,566 +9.1%
France 1,412 1,116 +26.5%
Germany 1,139 902 +26.3%
USA 755 547 +38.0%
Spain 1,024 589 +73.9%
Japan 514 488 +5.3%
Switzerland 332 332 No change
UK 323 277 +16.6%
Netherlands 321 265 +21.1%

Countries with under 250 identified infections not listed. Total countries infected worldwide = 110, an increase from yesterday of 6. Source: The WHO dashboard (Link), except for USA where I'm using the John Hopkins University dashboard (Link). Given Italy had 647 cases only 11 days ago and now has over 1,000% that number (archive.is source), it's reasonable to expect quarantines to one degree or another to come into place in a week or two for any country currently over 250.
Reminder, these are identified case counts and medical experts are reporting this virus has a long incubation period with people being infections despite displaying no symptoms; the true infection figures are likely to be much higher.

Virus reaction

Italy quarantines itself - As many will already know, the Italian Prime Minister Giuseppe Conte ordered the shutdown of the whole of Italy (Guardian: Link) late yesterday (Monday). “There is no more time. I will take responsibility for these measures. Our future is in our hands,” he told reporters. In Italy under the decree, all public events will be banned, cinemas, theatres, gyms, discos and pubs closed, and funerals, weddings and sporting events cancelled – including Serie A matches (the highest football/soccer league in the country). All schools and universities will remain closed until 3 April. Under the new decree, people will only be able to travel between cities for emergency reasons and can face fines and up to three months in jail for breaking quarantine rules. Checkpoints on motorways, toll booths, train stations and airports are expected to be introduced on Tuesday. Those who have to leave their region or their cities out of serious necessity can do so only if they have self-certification stating that they must cross the borders for compelling business reasons, health reasons, or because they have to return home. The Guardian points out in its live blog (Link) that the quarantine measures do appear to be working; infection rates are dropping in the eleven towns that were already quarantined more than two weeks ago. (Personal note: I checked FedEx, DHL and UPS service alerts for Italy; FedEx and DHL still aren't delivering to the 11 quarantined towns but say nothing for the rest of Italy, UPS says it's operating in Italy as normal).

Social media thoughts on Italy's battle with the virus - two threads have gone viral in the past 24 hours (neither can be corroborated but they seem reasonably believable to me). The first from an epidemiologist repeats the thoughts of a doctor working in a badly affected Italian hospital - the ER is becoming overwhelmed, everyone is being admitted for the same reason, all beds are full and staff are badly fatigued. You can read it here, she provided a follow up link at the bottom. The other is reporting on what his friend in Italy's medical system says and it's much the same thing - there is not enough equipment to meet the surge in demand, staff are becoming overwhelmed and those over 65 are not even being assessed and nobody is available to help them if they arrest (that link is here) - I assume they mean they are being forced to let the patient die because they are overwhelmed with other patients who are better placed to survive.

Is this a pandemic or not - Vox has written an interesting article on why the WHO still hasn't called it a Pandemic despite senior politicians in several countries doing just that. The reason - it's political (link).

Family of Missouri's first coronavirus patient broke self-quarantine, attended school dance - Fox News reports that the father of the first patient disobeyed self-quarantine rules and went to a school dance with his other daughter. Villa Duchesne and Oak Hill School will close on Monday; Villa is an all-girls school that serves grades seven through 12, while Oak Hill is a coed school that teaches preschool through grade six.

UAE bans all cruise ship visits until further notice - Splash247 reports that the Federal Transport Authority of the United Arab Emirates has decided to suspend all cruise operations at the country’s ports as part of precautionary measures to prevent the spreading of coronavirus. Ferry services to Iran were already suspended last month.

Other virus reactions in brief - Sources Guardian live blog (linked above) and Al-Jazeera live blog (link)
- The president of the European parliament announced he will self isolate for the next two weeks and work from home after visiting Italy over last weekend
- Poland has cancelled all mass public gatherings
- Pope Francis has urged priests to have the courage to go out and visit the sick and elderly
- Greek MPs are warning the health system on the island of Lesbos (which is host to 27,000 migrants and refugees is becoming overwhelmed and needs urgent help)
- Moldova is banning entrants via air from any country recording infections. Separately, Morocco has cancelled all flights to Italy as has the major European airline Norwegian airlines. Australian airline Qantas has grounded eight of its 10 A380 planes and is rerouting flights as it grapples with a sharp drop in demand; it's suspending 25% of its flights worldwide.
- The French culture minister has contracted the virus and is self isolating
- The UK's deputy chief medial officer has being doing the media tour this morning; she told Sky News that many thousands will become infected in the UK with mortality rates initially rising before falling again
- The Grand Princess cruise ship has finally docked in San Francisco with 21 cases onboard. Canada and the UK have said they will fly their citizens home; US citizens will be taken to military bases for 2 weeks quarantine.
- For the 3rd day in a row no local transmissions of the virus have been recorded in China outside of Hubei province
- China's President Xi has visited Wuhan for the first time since the outbreak started in a move widely seen as authorities feeling that the tide is turning in the fight against the virus.
- In Singapore non residents will now have to pay for healthcare if they are admitted to hospital with the Coronavirus (previously it was free). The government added that testing of foreign visitors will remain free.
- The Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, Wellcome and Mastercard pledged $125m to support the development of treatments for the coronavirus.
- Mongolia has quarantined all of its major cities after it discovered its first case.
- US forces in South Korea and Japan have been confined to their bases (source: NPR.org, link)

Economics

What are people panic buying - Strategyonline.ca reports has the answer (link), at least for Canadian consumers. Apart from the obvious sanitisers and masks, other products include cough and herbal remedies, baby products, dried food and deodorant with demand for oat milk nearly having tripled.

Virus Makes Lobsters So Cheap That Sellers Face a Fatal Blow - Supplychainbrain reports (link) that U.S. lobster prices have plummeted to the lowest in at least four years after the spread of the virus halted charter flights to Asia at a time when sales usually boom for Chinese New Year celebrations. The fallout has left thousands of pounds of unsold lobster flooding North American markets and squeezing U.S. businesses that were already hurting from lost sales due to China’s tariffs from its trade war with Washington. “This is like a fatal blow,” said Stephanie Nadeau, owner of Arundel, Maine-based The Lobster Co., which saw orders to Hong Kong shrivel from about 1,000 boxes a week to a total of 120 boxes -- each carrying 33 pounds -- since late January. “I’m about to lay off most of my employees.” The article goes on to discuss similar impacts hitting Canada, Australia and New Zealand lobster fisheries.

Supply chain

COVID-19 swallows $400 million revenue of African airlines - logupdateafrica.com says (link) the major African airlines have to date suffered $400m USD of revenue losses due to a collapse in demand. Several African airlines such as South African Airways, Royal Air Maroc, Air Tanzania, Air Mauritius, EgyptAir, RwandAir and Kenya Airways have suspended flights to and from China. Meanwhile, Ethiopian Airlines is still operating flights to and from five cities in China. Losses are expected to rise further.

Carriers eye empty passenger services to keep intra-Asia air cargo moving - The Loadstar says that Cathay Pacific (the major HK based airline) is thinking of using some passenger aircraft for cargo only flights to keep cargo moving around Asia. “Although we expect our passenger belly cargo operations to be impacted, we are evaluating how to continue serving our cargo customers to and from Japan,” Cathay said. “This includes the retention of certain passenger services for cargo carriage only.” The article goes on to quote a CEO of a large logistics firm: “We suggest customers consider ocean freight, rail freight, sea-air freight and even road freight, such as China-ASEAN cross-border trucks to diversify the risk. It is anticipated that surging demand of rail freight will also drive rate increases. In the meantime, more and more charter flight services will be launched in the market to soften demand”.

U.S. Exempts Face Masks, Medical Products From China Tariffs - Supplychainbrain.com reports that the US administration has lifted tariffs on face masks and medical products. One manufacturer is quoted as saying that the global production of the product is significantly limited to China, and changing to U.S. or third-country manufacturers “is not practical or competitive." "Additional duties on such products would cause major financial harm and increase costs to healthcare providers and their customers in the United States,” the company added.

iPhone 11 shortages in the US - the German tech website heise.de is reporting (link, in German) that in parts of the USA stocks of iPhone 11 models have run out and there is no sign of a resupply. It notes that the manufacturer FoxConn is struggling with its factories at an estimated 50% operational capacity. For the time being, availability in Germany remains good.

Israel: Courtesy of the Coronavirus, That Order From Amazon Could Take a Month to Reach Your Front Door - the major newspaper Haaretz has warned that if flights inbound from the US stop, it may take up to a month for Amazon orders to arrive - already AliExpress orders have plummeted in Israel as suppliers have struggled to ship out of Israel. Some e-commerce firms are countering by using connecting flights if direct ones have been cancelled. “In the worst case, and we’re closed to the U.S., they’ll be a real pogrom for the delivery sector. It means that deliveries won’t go out at all and there will be real shortages of merchandise,” one courier manager said. “The logistics universe comprises of lots of intermediate stops, The expectation now is that every link will be affected. If people are in lockdown, it means warehouse workers, delivery people and customs inspectors – everyone who comes into contact with the package, and that’s scores of hands until it reaches the customer.” He said he expected that to happen in weeks, maybe days, as the coronavirus, spreads to countries that are relevant to the supply chain that serve Israel such as Britain, Germany and the U.S.

Major UK supermarket chains now rationing sales for some products due to heavy demand - the BBC reports that Tesco and some other supermarket chains are now rationing sales of certain products both online and in store including antibacterial gels, wipes and sprays, dry pasta, UHT milk and some tinned vegetables. According to a survey from Retail Economics, as many as one in 10 UK consumers is stockpiling, based on a sample of 2,000 shoppers.

Good news section

Major UK automotive company Jaguar Land Rover says its supply chain is holding up - having hit the headlines a few weeks ago for flying in suitcases of key fobs, logisticsmanager.com reports that the automotive firm is saying its supply chain is holding up with most of its suppliers back online. JLR said it has visibility of availability of most parts out two weeks or more and had managed to avoid potential parts shortages by working closely with its suppliers and with some increased use of air freight. In the event of specific parts shortages, it warned, JLR would ordinarily be able to still build cars and retrofit missing parts when available, however, it said it could not rule out the risk that a shortage of a critical component could impact production at some point.
EDIT: Table formatting
EDIT 2: Lesbos isn't in Italy
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2019.12.29 08:30 niceguyputin Uncle Vasya’s Guide to Threesomes

Uncle Vasya’s Guide to Threesomes
And now, the quest begins, to nab the Holy Grail of manhood
I'd love, to score hot twins, like any hokey porno fan would
Although, that would be swell, they just don't sell, that stuff on e-bay
And yet, still hope I'll get, to have a three-way
-“Threeway” parody of Frank Sinatra’s “My Way”
So you want a threesome.1 Well, you think you do – like the song says, they are basically the Holy Grail for heterosexual men from the time we become sexually aware – but the reality may be different than you think. Or not. Oh, and the worst part about threesomes is, after the sex is over, you now have TWO girls in the room asking "So....what are you thinking about?"
Intrepid readers, please continue.
1 For purposes of this discussion, I mean the “Love Sammich” (FFM) threesomes; a “Devil’s Threeway” (MMF) is otherwise called a “train” in my world. Because really, fuck that noise. There will be cries of “No fair!” That usually comes from girls who aren’t that down, or who want to extract something. I’ve never had a girl who legit wanted a 3way demand “reciprocity”. They will almost universally specify a female partner. Also biologically, FFM couplings make more sense – they give women access to higher status men and they give higher status men more opportunity to propagate their genetic legacy.
The Typical Situation
The typical situation that arises that arises for men is, they have a girlfriend, maybe the girlfriend has hinted that she might be willing to do a Love Sammich, maybe she hasn’t. How to find out? As I often recommend, get girls talking, and you will find out all sorts of useful information.
I get girls comfortable, and I ask them about what their deepest, most secret, greasiest little fantasy is. There is the usual flowery bullshit that they put up as a smoke screen about wanting to “make love” on a beach at sunset2 or on a bed covered with rose petals, and then there are two that recur:
A. “Tie me up!”
B. “I wanna have sex with another girl!”
So here’s the thing: if your girl, at bottom, isn’t bi-curious of doesn’t want to have a threeway, then that’s how it is. Don’t nag, cajole, pester or beg. Make a decision as to whether you’re going to end the relationship or not. OTOH, if you a spinning plates, then, well, you don’t have that problem, do you?
Whether you are looking for the second girl or starting from scratch (with a willing gf) the next question that arises is, where to find the 2nd girl? Recently I was asked in askTRP where to meet bi-girls. Well, first, there isn’t typically a “bi-girl hangout joint” that you can google. OTOH, you meet bi and bi-curious women everywhere. You just have to gather information, and make the sale.
The good news: unlike men, who are basically "AC" or "DC", many/most women are at least "bi-curious".
The bad news: bi-girls tend to be flaky as fuck. As in “have the stability of the high-numbered stuff on the Periodic Table.”
2 Nobody actually wants to do this. If they do, they don’t want to do it again. Two Words: “sand” and “crevices”. You can work out the rest.
The Hierarchy
I think it’s actually better to find two girls at the same time, or approximately the same time, before the relationship (if there is or will be one) with one girl is more formalized. Why? Because once a girl is invested in you, she has something to lose. The “girlfriend” is very often going to want to impose a bunch of stupid rules – do NOT let her do this because they are often designed to fuck you over, like not letting you screw the other girl. Don’t let her ruin your fun. One way to avoid this is to put Girl2 on her back have the girlfriend lower her pussy on to the other girls mouth facing away from you, who will be mounting Girl2. Or lay on the bed, have the girlfriend in reverse cowgirl and have Girl2 sit on your face. Or have the girlfriend sit on your face, and have Girl2 blow you.
The girlfriend is pulling this “hierarchy” shit because girls are very often insecure. That’s why she wants ….
A Girl who Looks Like Me
My girlfriend's girlfriend, she looks like you
My girlfriend's girlfriend, she's my girl too
-“My Girlfriend’s Girlfriend”, Type O Negative
If you are in an established relationship with a girl who is exploring her bi-ness for the first time, don’t be surprised when she says that she wants to lose her lesbo-virginity with a girl who “looks like me”. Girls who look like her will be less threatening. You’re not going to dump her for a girl who looks like her, because you already have a girl who looks like her. On the other hand, if she’s a brunette and you partner up with a hot blonde, you (‘her’ man) may suddenly discover that you like blondes better, and dump her by the side of the road. For men, the big fear, in terms of biology, is being cucked; for women it is loss of resources, which in the Bad Old Days of the Saber Tooth Tiger, could mean death for her and her offspring.
The Mechanics
So you get them to own up to their lezzy desires, and then you get two of them together. Also, don't do anything like go on a "date" or some other dumb shit to "set the mood". They will want to do that. Do not. Get them together, have anyone who needs a shot do one, and then get busy. You’re dealing with two Hamsters. Elongating the time frame gives one or the other hamster time to hamster way and blow up your perfectly good 3way.
Get down to business, before shit slips away from you.
You Have the Right to Remain Silent
“When a girl wants to fuck you, shut up and let it happen.” - Chris Rock
So I coached a buddy of mine through his first 3-way last fall. He had a FWB relationship with a girl who was sort of into the 3way idea, but was also pitching it as “Hey, Ima do this for you, and then we’re going to be exclusive, m’kay?” covert contract. He didn’t make any promises, but went ahead anyway.
Now, said FWB had a thing about the other girl – she was a plate, and she was doing other people also – staying over, i.e. she very much did NOT want that to happen. Hierarchy and all that. Logistics dictated otherwise. He asks me if he should tell the first girl that that 2nd girl is likely going to stay over. Me: “Only do that if you have decided that you definitely DO NOT WANT the 3way to happen.” So a good time was had by all, but guess who left in a huff after when it was discovered that Girl2 was sleeping over? Exactly. Tell her that before? No 3way. Why that mattered, I don’t know, but it did. Girls are retarded. He texted me after:
Him: “You were right about everything.”
Me: “That happens a lot. Like all the time. It can be a curse, really.”
Your Job is to Have a Cock
For a lot of bi-curious women, they want the comfort of a man's cock in the room so they didn't have to think, "But…but…but what if I'm a Giant Lesbo?!" Once things get rockin’, she may forget about that bit and be more into the other chick. Don’t worry about it. Encourage her, and then reap the rewards of being a chill guy later.
You Are the Director of Your Own ‘Porn Film’
In our meat triangle, all tangled. Wow.
-“My Girlfriend’s Girlfriend”, Type O Negative
So very often what happens with first timers is, the girlfriend turns out to be way into it and the guy starts feeling left out. So put yourself back in the game. Direct traffic, decide who is doing what to whom and when. And after they’ve had a shot at each other, get your double-team blowjob (see below). Never assume that the girls are going to know what you want. You’re the leader of the pack, so lead them.
Fun Stuff
So the point of having a 3way is to do stuff that you can’t do with just one woman.
You know what’s better than getting a blowjob from one woman? Getting a blowjob from two women.
Have one work your dick while the other one gargles your nutsack or rims you. Just trusting me on the rimming part.
You are The Sherriff
As I have alluded to before, I like tying girls up. Always have, always will. I have also known from my childhood that I am crazy strong and I can hurt people even when I don’t mean to. Lots of people turn into sadistic motherfuckers when they have control over another person – google the “Stanford Prison Experiment”. There is (supposedly) a lot of violence in lesbian relationships and you have to be careful to not let shit get out of hand if you are using BDSM in your threeway, which is a distinct possibility because some girls will want to be tied up so they can hamster away the part where they are lezzing out isn’t “their fault”.
If you are using BDSM, the same rules apply as always: you have to understand the sub’s limits and you can’t let the other girl beat the shit out of the sub, or at least exceed the sub’s limits. One way to handle this is to tell the girl who isn’t going to be tied up that you are going to tie her up later and give the sub a crack at her. That often keeps girls in the right frame of mind.
The “Household of Three”
Throw away your dad’s morality, your mom’s conventionality it’s not for me
If it were me and you and you and her and her and me, we’d be so happy together
-You & Me & Her, -Itis
That’s what ménage à trois actually means: Household of Three. While we typically think of them as one-offs, you may find that you like the lifestyle, which is fine as long as everyone is on board. Previously, I was in a couple of separate relationships that were "households of three" as it were. In the first case, an ex-gf circled back around because she really wanted to have sex with her roommate - I could hardly blame her; the girl was hot. The ex also knew that the roommate was not going to be DTF unless there was a cock in the room. To the ex, I was a "known quantity" (i.e., if she fucks me again, she's still at "N+0") and she knew I'd be able to close the deal, which I was. So she basically set me up with the roommate, knowing full well that (a) I would seduce her, and (b) I would happily share, and once the girl got comfortable, she'd open up a bit. Anyway, that lasted about a year and a half and was Big Fun all the way around.
In the other case, I was meeting a girl I was dating at a club and I ran into her "genetic twin" – they could have been sisters. So, knowing the girl I was dating would be DTF her, I established that Girl2 was down, and then the first girl showed up and soon enough we were in a relationship together. The two girls wound up becoming roommates later on, which made it convenient for me – I would refer to our sessions as “roommating”. While I don’t make a habit of it, I do throw in the occasional “dad” joke.
So you do have to be able to manage jealousy issues, both inside and outside of the relationship. Especially at the beginning they will be conscious of being treated "equally" or sometimes the girl who you knew first wants some advantage, but you have to squelch that nonsense early on.
Anyway, time moves on, and things change. The roommate from the first story got married and has a kid, now. She seems happy, so good for her. The ex from that tale sort of went off the deep end. She posed in Playboy (so I can cross that off my bucket list) and moved to Europe where she's presently being used as a cum dumpster by her "sponsor' and has a well-developed drug habit.
Of the two girls in the other threesome, one became a chef, and the other one (that was the one I mistook for the first one) is a teacher now. She is still useful as a 'corner square' in 'girl-girl-Vasya' tic-tac-toe. It’s useful to have a deep bench.
Of my two LTRs, the first is more “NO WAY!” than “3Way!” which is fine; that’s her nature and her choice. OLTR2 has recently expressed an interest and, luckily, I know some bi-girls who would LOVE a crack at her – all of which will be carefully stage-managed by me, if and when it happens – this stuff is tricky, after all.
Managing Relationships Between the Girls
She could help you cook & clean and she'd know just what you mean, (someone who listens)”
And as I snore away the night, she could always hold you tight, (it's what we're missin')
-You & Me & Her, -Itis
The Ex and Roommate negotiated a rather complex treaty about managing things when I wasn't around (they were both young (early 20s) and had things like "parents", so there was some discussion about whose 'boyfriend' I was going to be at whose house, etc., if and when it came up.) It was kind of funny, because I pointed out to my ex, that, when I wasn't around, she "was the boyfriend" - the other girl was a bit more of a girly-girl than she was.
The teacher and the chef were more independent – no pesky family nearby. The chef was more of the “boyfriend” in that situation, but it was less pronounced.
I also have a bit of an odd situation going on with a couple of plates – one is a dancer who is only down for threeways…BUT, she’s in love with one of my plates. The plate is in love with me. The dancer is terrified that I will “take [my plate] away” from her.” It creates an interesting power dynamic, but luckily for all concerned I’m a benevolent dictator. As time goes on, the dancer will either acclimate and accept things as they are, or she will not.
Relationships With The Outside World
Her and me and her and she and me
An uncrowded couple; are we three
Hey we don't care what people say
When walking hand in hand down Kings Highway
Two for one today
-“My Girlfriend’s Girlfriend”, Type O Negative
This can be complicated. You run into problems with judgy bluepills, especially “ladies of a certain age” spinsters who feel “entitled”, and Bitter, Butthurt BetasTM who are miffed at the perceived misallocation of pussy-related resources. I prefer to opt for an “unapologetic” stance. “Which one are you with?” – “Both of them” – “But there are two girls” – “Yes, I know. It’s nice.”
There will be the occasional double-takes, although I find that when I’m in Continental Europe it’s less of a big deal. Once I have arranged a hotel suite for me and one of the pairs at a place where I sometimes stay on business in Europe. So in making the reservation by phone - I had to in order to get a suite (required because 3 people) - the (American) CSR couldn't get past that I had 3 people, but wanted a king bed and kept turning down her suggestion of a cot for the room. So finally, I was like "Look. I have a 'Vicky-Cristina-Barcelona' thing going on. One king bed. No cot." When I showed up at the hotel, the Europeans understood right away. Very amusing.
Similarly, I was checking in to a hotel on the Côte d'Azur – the school teacher speaks fluent French – so I’m being checked-in – it was in a separate, seating area with the GM handling it – and the two girls excused themselves to the Ladies. The GM looked after them as they left, turned back to me, said, “I offer you my congratulations” and then went right back to business without missing a beat.
Final Points
-Bi-girls can be fun, but they are typically flaky.
-You will get push back from “normies”. Fuck that shit, live how you want.
-If you engage in longer-term relationships, be ready to manage both women, as well as handle any outside interference and bullshit.
-Threesome ‘relationships’ tend to be transient in nature – of course so do most of your friendships and romantic relationships – so relax and enjoy them in the moment.
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2019.10.25 03:12 fullbloodedwhitemale Is the death of Europe?

The proliferation of other races dooms our race, my race, irretrievably to extinction in the century to come, if we hold fast to our present moral principles. — Jean Raspail, The Camp of the Saints, 1973
Forty-two years ago, the great French author Jean Raspail wrote a deeply prescient novel. A flotilla of rusty ships packed with beggars sets sail from the Third World. They head for the French Riviera, where a million wretched, brown-skinned people hope to storm the beaches and feed on the wealthy white West. Will the French army fire on the invaders or welcome them as refugees? In the end they do neither; soldiers throw down their weapons and run away as the mob stumbles ashore. Millions more follow, and Europe is snuffed out.
The Camp of the Saints has never gone out of print, and has been translated into all major European languages–and yet the coverage of the European “migrant” crisis goes on as if it had never been written. The masses pouring in from Syria, Afghanistan, Iraq, and a host of African countries are doing exactly what Mr. Raspail predicted they would and, tragically, so are the Europeans.
The underlying problem–and one that cannot be solved–is that whites have built the most pleasant places to live in human history while, with only a few exceptions, everywhere else is a dung heap. In some cases, such as Afghanistan, Iraq, and Libya, Western meddling has made things worse, but even without that, hundreds of millions of non-whites in a hundred different countries would move to Europe or America if they could.
And now, they can.
The Camp of the Saints put the white man’s dilemma in the harshest terms: slaughter hundreds of thousands of men, women, and children or face oblivion. The flotilla sets sail confident that Europeans do not have the nerve to kill in order to survive. Today as well, the Third World is crossing the Mediterranean confident that whites don’t have the nerve even to turn them back. Every vagabond who gets a bed in a reception center in Dortmund or Malmö tweets the good news to a hundred people back in Somalia and Syria. They will come in endless waves until they are stopped, and if they are not stopped Europe will die, just as it does in The Camp of the Saints.
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What Europeans are doing reflects something deep in their nature, which makes them capable of extraordinary levels of pathological altruism. But the present invasion also has a legal background that dates to the 1951 United Nations Convention Relating to the Status of Refugees. It defines a refugee as someone:
[who] owing to [a] well-founded fear of being persecuted for reasons of race, religion, nationality, membership of a particular social group or political opinion, is outside the country of his nationality and is unable or, owing to such fear, is unwilling to avail himself of the protection of that country.
The convention required “non-refoulement,” which means refugees cannot be turned back at the border. It also prohibited countries from applying to refugees the usual punishments for illegal entry. The convention came out of the Second World War, applied only to Europeans, and gave signatories the option of limiting their definition of refugees to people who were displaced “as a result of events occurring before 1 January 1951.”
In 1951, the world population was 2.5 billion. It is now 7.3 billion, and the overwhelming bulk of the growth has been in those very countries that are so miserable that huge numbers of their citizens want to leave.
The United States did not sign the convention. What it did sign, in 1968, was a protocol added to the convention, which removed the original geographic and time limits. This meant signatories were required to take in anyone from anywhere forever. Until 1968, however, the United States had no legal obligation to accept any refugees.
Virtually every member of the United Nations has signed both documents–Nauru signed in 2011–but countries like East Timor, Afghanistan, and Zimbabwe have little fear of being called on to fulfill their obligations.
The United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR) sets up camps for refugees and does initial screening. Except under crazy circumstances like those in Europe today, countries decide how many refugees they will accept, and dicker with UNHCR over who they will take. The supply is essentially unlimited: Last year, UNHCR said there were more than 50 million displaced people around the world, of whom about 17 million were officially designated as refugees.
Except for the countries right next to the places people are trying to leave, white countries accept by far the most refugees. China completely ignores the “non-refoulement” rule, turning back Burmese tribal people whom the authorities are driving out of the country. In 2014, Japan accepted only 11 out of 5,000 applications for asylum. Mexico, which sends us millions of people, accepts even fewer: It now has a total of 1,677 refugees to Japan’s 2,649. And it’s not as though no one applies to Mexico. Central America has produced plenty of “refugees” but Mexico won’t take them.
Countries just do what they please, because the conventions have no enforcement mechanism. The only price for spurning refugees is accusations of heartlessness, and so long as a country isn’t white, there isn’t much of that.
There has been some clucking about Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, and the rich Gulf States, which are selective and let Syrians in only on work visas. In fact, they are the most honest players in the game; they haven’t signed the conventions so they don’t have to accept refugees. At the same time, they have spent hundreds of millions of dollars on camps for displaced Syrians in Turkey, Lebanon and Jordan. The United Arab Emirates alone have splashed out more than half a billion to house their fellow Muslims. The UN and Western countries have also spent several billion dollars on those camps, where about 3.7 million displaced Syrians have been living safely–though not luxuriously–for years.
And that is what makes this “refugee crisis” not just a calamity for Europe but an absurdity. News reports routinely talk about Syrians “fleeing war and turmoil in the Middle East,” but it’s not as though the Syrian civil war suddenly turned brutal, and shell-shocked families are fleeing war zones with only the clothes on their backs. Many have decided they are just tired of refugee camps–and the ones in Lebanon have cut back somewhat on handouts. Those coming straight from Syria just want a chance at Europe, too. As one 35-year-old woman who brought two young children with her from Aleppo explained at the Hungarian border, “I decided to leave Syria because I want my kids to have a comfortable life, to study.”
In any case, it’s hardly the poor who are making the trip. Smugglers charge as much as $2,000 per adult to ferry people just a couple of miles from Turkey to a Greek island. It takes money to travel on to Germany or Sweden–though some European countries are laying on free travel, food, and shelter. These newcomers are not the needy; they are the greedy.
Finally, this “refugee crisis” is not just an absurdity; it’s absurdity on stilts. Syrians don’t qualify as refugees under the conventions. As noted above, a refugee has to have a well-founded fear of persecution. Being caught in a war zone is not persecution.
A government can choose to treat Syrians as refugees, however, and most European countries have promised them special handling. People are therefore throwing away their identity papers as soon as they get to Europe and are claiming to be Syrian. There is now a brisk market in fake Syrian passports; German authorities have confiscated hundreds of blanks. A Dutch journalist in Syria paid $850 for a very convincing-looking custom-made fake, and they are now offered on the Internet. Syrians have been getting into fights with imposters who, they think, make it harder for real Syrians to register as refugees.
In any case, it is wrong for the press to call these people “migrants,” as if they were Canada geese. Every one of them, wherever he came from, is an illegal immigrant. Israel calls such people “infiltrators.” It would not be incorrect to call them “invaders,” since they are an army of aliens come to occupy and transform Europe.
Liberals are scratching their heads, trying to figure out what set off the current flood. They note that the Syrian war hasn’t gotten worse, and that conditions in Turkish and Jordanian refugee camps are the same as ever.
The answer is simple: Waves of illegals are coming because they can. They saw hundreds of thousands of Africans from such places as Senegal and Nigeria–without even a fantasy claim to being “refugees”–swarming across the Mediterranean from Libya. Not only did the Italian Navy save their lives when their boats sank, it turned them loose on the continent to go wherever the handouts were most generous. Firm treatment early on–towing the boats back where they came from as the Australians do–would have stopped them right away. Instead, Europe foolishly opened the door and is shocked that more have followed.
Germany, especially, has been letting in anyone who wants to come, and people from wrecked countries all over the world know a good thing when they see it. That is why only about one in five of the people pouring into Europe over the last three months is even Syrian. The rest come from South Sudan, Bangladesh, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Eritrea, and every other hell hole.
Chancellor Angela Merkel of Germany made things much worse by announcing that she expects to take in 800,000 waifs this year. Now the government says it could be more like a million. Chancellor Merkel has even been so stupid as to say that “the right to political asylum has no limits on the number of asylum seekers.” Technically, she’s right–the conventions say nothing about limits–but this is an open invitation to every basket-case country everywhere. Here is an interactive graphic from the New York Times that gives a very dramatic sense of what some of these numbers mean.
Chancellor Merkel’s invitation explains why nearly a million illegals have already come to Europe, and countless more are on the way. It explains why 3,000 arrive every day on the tiny Greek Island of Lesbos. And why nearly 4,700 boat people were rescued off the coast of Libya just last Saturday (Sept. 20). And why the crush of “migrants” has so overwhelmed European transport systems that train service had to be stopped between Budapest and Vienna, and between Munich and Salzberg. It explains the mountains of rubbish, food, and feces the “migrants” have left behind wherever the gather.
It explains why we can look forward to such piquant ironies as 75,000 Muslims showing up in Munich just in time for Oktoberfest. Will they spoil the fun for the 6 million locals and tourists who are expected to swallow 1.7 millions of gallons of beer?
Trying to feed, house, clothe, mediate, and teach German to these illegals won’t be cheap, either. Current estimates are that if Germany takes in one million foreigners a year for two years the bill could run to €25 billion ($28 billion). Germany had been running a budget surplus of a few billion a year; it will go back into the red.
The German Economy Minister Sigmar Gabriel, who is Chancellor Merkel’s deputy, has said what may be the most idiotic thing yet: “If we manage to quickly train those that come to us and to get them into work, then we will solve one of our biggest problems for the economic future of our country: the skills shortage.” Germany already has an indigestible mass of Turks who are a recognized scourge, and if Germany needed skilled immigrants it could select them rather than let in masses of whatever shows up.
But Germany is burnishing its credentials as officially post-Nazi. Polls show that a majority of Germans welcome the refugees and can’t get enough international praise. Meanwhile, officials in the German Länder, or states, that have actually have to handle the crowds, worry that they are already stretched to capacity.
The United States, which has so far let in only a couple of thousand Syrians, wants praise, too. Secretary of State John Kerry just announced an increase from 70,000 to 85,000 for next year’s refugee quota, with a goal of 100,000 for 2017. He explained we can’t let in more because it takes time to vet Syrians for terrorism. What does that say about the potential two million Germany could be in for?
The spinelessness of the Europeans is perfectly matched by the arrogance and aggressiveness of the illegals. One might think people who show up without permission in a foreign country would be grateful simply not to be turned back. Not these people. On the Greek islands they fought each other and rioted because they didn’t think they were being treated well enough. On Kos, a tourist mecca, they blocked the main street of the town chanting, “We want papers. We want to eat.” On Lesbos, with 20,000 surly young men camping in streets and squares, locals were afraid to leave their homes or send children to school. “They have stolen our lives,” said one.
Africans in Italian reception centers in Belluno, Sicily, and Rome went on hunger strikes because they were tired of Italian food and wanted African food. The strikers in Belluno slashed the tires of Italians who worked at the center.
At the Serbian/Hungarian frontier, migrants massed at a border fence, chanting “open the door.” They gave the Hungarians two hours to let them in, and then launched human-wave attacks on the fence to try to tear it down. When the Hungarians fired tear gas and water cannons, the illegals threw rocks and sticks at the border police. There was a running battle of several hours before the illegals finally gave up and headed for Croatia.
Rail service from Germany to Austria through the Freilassing border crossing had to be suspended when illegals hit the emergency break to slow down the train so they could jump off. They then walked around the border crossing so they wouldn’t have to show papers. On all the rail routes leading to Germany, thousands of illegals have been sleeping in stations, filling the restrooms and platforms with filth, and cramming themselves onto any train that was passing through, whether they had tickets or not. Mobs at the Keleti railroad station in central Budapest shouted “Fuck you,” and “Allahu Akbar” at Hungarian authorities.
Most of these illegals are young Muslim men who have never seen a woman in a bikini. There have already been reports of women and children being raped in some of the migrant centers, where Muslims consider unaccompanied women “fair game.” Even when they have segregated dormitories, women sleep fully dressed, and are afraid to walk around the centers. So many have been forced into prostitution that a social worker at a Bavarian shelter called it “the biggest brothel in Munich.” It’s no accident that in immigrant-happy Sweden the majority of rapists are immigrants–overwhelmingly Muslim. These are the people Chancellor Merkel’s deputy thinks will make good Germans.
This is what Europe gets for its spinelessness. The illegals sense weakness, and they are right. They exploit that weakness, and their success inspires yet more hundreds of thousands–no doubt millions–from every wretched country. Only force will stop them, the force that any healthy people would have used immediately.
Fortunately, not all of Europe has gone insane. Hungarian Foreign Minister Peter Szijjarto pointed out that if Germany is worried about the plight of Syrians it could use a tiny fraction of the money it has budgeted for “migrants” to improve conditions in the camps in Jordan, Turkey, and Lebanon.
Hungary’s Prime Minister, Victor Orban has been the most consistently clear-headed European head of state throughout the crisis. He has warned that Muslims will destroy Europe’s Christian identity and that Europeans have a right to refuse to become minorities on their own continent. His determination to keep illegals out has made him a hero to his people.
Slovakia said it would let in 200 Syrians but they had to be Christians. Interior Minister Ivan Netik explained that Slovakia doesn’t have a single mosque and that Muslims aren’t welcome.
Dutch political leader Geert Wilders has warned of an “Islamic invasion:”
Masses of young men in their twenties with beards singing ‘Allahu Akbar’ (God is greatest) across Europe–it’s an invasion that threatens our prosperity, our security, our culture and identity.
He’s right. Sheikh Muhammad Ayed, speaking at the Al-Aqsa Mosque in Jerusalem, encouraged the illegals to pour into Europe and mate with Europeans. “We will breed children with them, because we shall conquer their countries,” he said. “We will trample them underfoot, Allah willing.”
Ironically, it is former Communists, who lived under an overtly anti-religious, anti-nationalist ideology, that are still able to think in terms of national and religious identity. When Chancellor Merkel said she wanted to assign mandatory “refugee” quotas to every EU member, Hungary, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, Slovakia and the Czech Republic refused. Communism protected them from something much worse: “tolerance” and “diversity.”
Perhaps the greatest irony, however, is that emasculated West Europeans are accusing East Europeans of not being European. French Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius said that Hungary’s efforts to keep out illegals shows it does not “respect Europe’s common values.” It is only because Europeans fought Muslim invaders for 1,000 years–from 732 at the Battle of Poitiers to 1683 at the gates of Vienna–that Europe as we know it even exists. Incredibly, Mr. Fabius wants to throw it all away in the name of what he calls “Europe’s common values.”
Laurent Fabius could have stepped right out of the pages of The Camp of the Saints.
As Jean Raspail wrote in 1985:
[T]he West is empty, even if it has not yet become really aware of it. An extraordinarily inventive civilization, surely the only one capable of meeting the challenges of the third millennium, the West has no soul left.
https://www.amren.com/features/2015/09/is-this-the-death-of-europe/
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2019.09.06 06:13 jksjay A year of Decriminalisation of Section 377

A year ago, on September 6th, 2018, the supreme court of India struck down portions of a law dating to 1861, which penalised any form of unnatural sex. The scrapping essentially meant that it was no longer a crime to be gay in India.
This June, for Pride month, I wrote an article outlining LGBTQ+ history, with a focus on India. It is by no means complete, but I feel I have glossed over a few of the important bits and pieces. I thought I would share it here on the anniversary of the scrapping of Section 377.
September 6, 2018, was a monumental day for a significant portion of the Indian populace. Portions of the archaic Section 377 of the Indian Penal Code that criminalises any form of carnal intercourse against the order of nature (the order of nature being peno-vaginal intercourse), was scrapped. This, in conjunction with a 2017 ruling that upheld individual privacy, meant that being gay was no more a crime. A time of jubilation for the LGBTQ+ and allied, as well as the supportive families and friends, these people form a considerable portion of the Indian population. June 2019 is the first LGBTQ+ pride month the nation gets to celebrate, so it is worth remembering the history of this unconstitutional law, and the struggles that activists had to go through, both in India, as well as other parts of the world, to effectively repeal its effects and ensure equality for all.
Ancient Indian literature and Vedic texts describe gods and demigods transcending the gender norms, and manifesting combinations of sex and gender. Transgenders were accepted from prehistoric dates, and alternate sexuality was sometimes considered even sacred, with Ardhanareeswara and Shikhandi being cited as examples.
Other parts of the ancient to early medieval world had an accepting or neutral view about homosexuality, with the “Two Spirits” from the Americas, Pharaohs of Egypt taking male lovers, the men of Siwa Oasis in Egypt openly engaging in homosexual acts, euphemisms such as passions of the cut peach in ancient China. Ancient Greek texts have the earliest recorded history of homosexuality being accepted, and the term lesbianism and sapphism has been coined after Sappho, the lyrical poet born on the island of Lesbos. Roman emperor Nero married two men, Pythagorus and Sporus, the former taking the place and manners of a man and acting as Nero’s husband, whileSporus had been castrated, and was the bride at Nero’s wedding.
The mid first millennium AD saw the rise of justification of famines and earthquakes as caused by increased activity of homosexuals, as accused by Christian emperors such as Justinian I. The Caliphate of the Middle East, and the Mughal emperors in medieval era India condemned homosexuality, but this was the time when Arabic, Persian and Urdu poetry describing homoerotic acts flourished. It is known that the sultans of the Delhi Sultanates themselves established relationships with men, even though it was prohibited by the Sharia law.
The earliest condemnation of men lying with men was in Assyria, where sexual acts between brothers in arms resulted in castration. Homosexual acts were seen as an abomination in the Torah, and the Bible, as can be seen from Leviticus. Persecutions against homosexuality rose in the Middle Ages in Europe, with the theologian Thomas Aquinas instrumental in the linking of condemning homosexuality, linking it with the violation of the law of nature. The Renaissance period saw immense oppression to homosexuality from the Catholic Church, with the act being penalised with death in most parts of Europe. Victorian era Britain condemned homosexuality, and enacted a stronger version of the Buggery Act, which penalised any act of penetration against the law of nature with death - this was the precursor to the Section 377, and most of the similar sections, at least in British colonies around the world. The United States had two periods when homosexuality was condemned, for a few decades before the end of the Great War, and from late 1930s to the early 1970s. In the 1920s, the urban regions of the USA was coming to terms with alternate sexuality, with innuendos about the same becoming common in literature and movies of that era.
France, in 1791, was the first country in the western world to have decriminalised sodomy, and the laws of consent and homosexual acts in public were repeatedly amended in later years. Many countries in Europe followed suit, but Britain was one of the few nations that removed the death penalty to imprisonment for life. Molly houses in 18th century London, where crossdressing men could find potential sexual partners, is probably a precursor to the idea of a gay bar. It is to be noted that non-European nations/ non-colonial nations, had varying views on homosexuality, and in many cases, they were part of the cultural norms of the society, such as in the oriental countries. It is reported that some tribes of Papua New Guinea (Etoro, for example) even condemned heterosexuality - and a man and a woman had intercourse only for the purpose of procreation.
The 19th century saw a rise in the number of countries decriminalising homosexuality, and sodomy. James Pratt and John Smith, who were executed in London in 1835 were the last people to face death penalty in Britain, for sodomy, but death penalty as a punishment for sodomy was repealed only in 1861. Gay men were prosecuted and were imprisoned for a period from 2 to 10 years, with heavy fines also implemented. One of the prime examples of this is the arrest of Irish playwright and poet Oscar Wilde, after he accused the Marquess of Queensberry for libel. Wilde was convicted of sodomy as he dropped his prosecution and served term for two years, after which he was released, and fled to France, where he lived till his death.
20th century saw waves of changes, both good and bad. The usage of the term ‘faggot’ to mean a gay man, became prevalent in the 1910s, while in Russia, the October revolution repealed criminalisation of sodomy. Pre WW II, Nazi Germany made the pink triangle mandatory - similar to the Yellow Star that Jews were forced to wear - on those who they identified as homosexual, in the concentration camps; an identification of crime, but currently used as a symbol of protest against homophobia. The Holocaust killed around an estimated 3000 - 9000 homosexual men, but post WW II Berlin saw the first gay bar in Berlin. Though, at the end of the war, when the prisoners of the concentration camps were liberated, many who had a pink triangle on their pocket were imprisoned again, and their nightmares just continued.
1954 saw one of the greatest mathematical and computational minds of the 20th century, Alan Turing, suicide, due to depression caused by forced administration of libido reducing hormones. When he was prosecuted for homosexual acts in 1952, he was offered a “choice” between being imprisoned for two years or chemical castration. Inquiry determined it as a case of suicide, though the autopsy is also consistent with cyanide poisoning.
The latter half of the 20th century saw major changes around the world, with more countries legalising same sex activities. Illinois in 1962, was the first US state to decriminalise homosexuality - it would take 50 years for the US in its entirety to follow suit.
The worldwide movement and philosophy of LGBT pride, advocating for LGBTQ+ individuals around the world to be proud of their sexuality, and that it can’t be altered, but rather is a gift, is a sense of affirmation about one’s self and the community as a whole. Following the Stonewall riots of 1969, the first anniversary of the same saw the first LGBT Pride Parade, in June 1970. It was in the late 1970s that the rainbow flag became associated with LGBT+ pride. One must reminisce the activists who paved way for the pride parade - Marsha P Johnson, Storme DeLarverie, Thomas Lanigan Schmidt, and Sylvia Rivera, amongst many others. The 1970s also saw Harvey Milk, the first openly gay candidate elected to political office, out before the elections were held.
Shakuntala Devi, a mental calculator, popularly known as the "human computer", in 1977, published “The World of Homosexuals”, a study of homosexuality, the first book of its kind, in India. The book contains data from interviews with gay individuals from India, and abroad.
The 1980s saw the spread of AIDS, which was then known as GRID (Gay Related Immune Deficiency), and efforts to make people aware about the transfer of STDs began in full swing over the next two decades. The red ribbon began to be used as a symbol for HIV/AIDS in the 1990s.
In 1992, Lesbian Avengers, a direct action group for the survival and visibility of lesbians and their allies was formed by Anna Maria Simo, Sarah Schulman, and others. As it may have been observed, even amongst homosexual acts, the world has focused mostly on men, and accepted/condemned wherever necessary, the acts of sodomy alone - literature and other sources about female sexuality was rarely discussed, let alone lesbianism. Lesbian sexuality wasn’t explored until the advent of third wave feminist activities, may be with the exception of the analysis of Sapphic literature. References to love between women are sparse, and the Bible explicitly mentions the same only once. Christianity in medieval Europe did take some stand on lesbianism, but records of only about a dozen women exist. The Renaissance period accounts of female intimacy, and accepted it as a cultural norm that women may require pleasure from other women. The medieval Arab World also had a similar view, disposing lesbianism as caused due to heat generated in women’s labia.
In early modern Europe, laws against lesbianism, if ever made, were very sparsely enacted, which historians allude to male fears about acknowledging the same. Lesbianism was rationalised in literature and it was alluded that only amongst the lower tier of the society did a lesbian subculture exist. Lesbian visibility in France increased in the late 19th century, both in the public sphere as well as in art and literature. The Nazi concentration camps marked transmales and lesbians with black triangles, to denote that they were being detained for asocial activities. Political lesbianism originated amongst the second wave radical feminists in the 1960s, and Sheila Jeffreys, helped develop this concept. A movement of lesbian feminism, which advocated lesbianism as a logical result of feminism, was influential in the 1970s and ‘80s. Lesbian Avengers may have been formed as a result of lesbians being tired of their issues not being resolved in a world of invisibility and misogyny, both within and outside the LGBT community, according to Eloise Salholz, reporter for the 1993 pride march in the US.
The 21st century saw same sex marriage and adoption laws coming up in various parts of the world, and same sex relationships and marriage is becoming more discussed in world media. The last 10 years have seen events such as the establishment of the International Trans Day of Visibility (March 31, since 2009), and more widespread discussion of homosexuality among the nations of the world. In 2018, British Prime Minister Theresa May issued an apology expressing deep regrets for Britain’s role in imposing colonial laws that criminalise LGBT people across the Commonwealth nations - 36 of the 53 still have not repealed the laws, and violence and persecution persists to this day.
Early Indian literature and architecture portrayed homosexuality as natural and joyful, and the Kama Sutra describes many different forms of non peno-vaginal sex and sensual pleasures. Modern societal homophobia was introduced by the colonisers, through the enactment of Section 377. The Sultanate era had homophobia in many forms, but some circles, including the Mughals, tolerated fluid sexuality. Even in 2003, it was believed by the Indian government, that homosexual acts would lead to delinquency. The first pride parade in India was held in 2008 in Bangalore, and since then, masks have become an integral part of pride celebrations in the country so as to reduce the chances of being recognised.
Only in 2009, did the Delhi High Court decide that Section 377 was unconstitutional, in the landmark Naz foundation vs.Govt of NCT of Delhi judgement. The Supreme court set aside the same in 2013, due to the opposition from the Ministry of Home Affairs. For five years, until 2018, there have been various instances of violence against those who had outed themselves, or were outed, from 2009 - ‘13. With a decision to review the repeal in 2016, and the Supreme court’s rule that the right to individual privacy is an intrinsic and fundamental right under the constitution, which gave hope to the LGBT activists of the country. January 2018 saw the supreme court willing to listen to petitions, and finally deciding that the case would be left to the wisdom of the court. The court unanimously ruled on Spetember 6, 2018 that IPC Section 377 is unconstitutional as it infringed on one’s autonomy, intimacy and identity - and decriminalised homosexuality in India.
Transgenders have been traditionally recognised, and were granted voting rights since 1994. In 2014, the Supreme Court, by classifying transgenders as SEBC (Socially and Economically Backward Classes), provided them with more equal footing to the general populace. The Rights of Transgender Persons Bill, 2014, was unanimously passed in 2015. The states of Kerala and Tamil Nadu were the first to provide male-to-female SRS (Sex Reassignment Surgery) free of cost, and also a transgender welfare policy. 2015 saw Madhu Kinnar become India’s first and only openly transgender mayor, and Manabi Bandyopadhyay appointed as the first transgender principal of a college (Krishnagar Women’s College). In 2019, Narthaki Nataraj became the first transgender person to be felicitated with the Padma Shri award for her contributions to Bharatanatyam. The US embassy in Delhi and Chennai have set up rainbow lights that shine on their buildings, since the US State refused all embassy requests to hoist rainbow flags.
The world has come a long way from when homosexuality was seen illegal in many parts to the present, where it is recognised and accepted in over 80 percent of the world. 14 countries still impose death penalty on homosexuality, and only about 27 countries have a same sex marriage law in place.Some nations still don’t provide the rights to the LGBTQ+ community as prescribed by the Yogyakarta Principles, formulated in 2007 - a documentation of basic human rights pertaining to sexual orientation and gender identity. Transgender rights are vastly ignored, and bisexuals are misunderstood as promiscuous, even in countries which have legalised and recognised LGBTQ+ rights, and they still seek visibility and acceptance - modes of sensitisation are necessary for the same. LGBTQ+ people of colour, just as a major chunk of people of colour, are treated with suspicion and are discriminated against on more than one count.
Even though the repeal of Section 377 has been a landmark decision, there are many other issues that still remain unanswered. Persecution and violence against LGBTQ+ people is still rampant, and anti-discrimination laws are not in place, except for in state or government bodies. Same-sex marriage and adoption (and surrogacy for gay male couples) still remains illegal. Service in the Armed Forces is prohibited for those belonging to the community. Another issue that has partly been dealt with, is how the public view homosexuality. Mainstream media, some even to date, show crossdressing and effeminate behaviour in a derogatory manner, but more and more people are becoming aware and changing media portrayal. A major issue that remains to be tackled is the misogyny within the community, that is rampant to date, all over the world. Equality begets equality, and only if misogyny is addressed can we aim to have a world that is equal on more levels than ever.
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https://sopanamtheblog.wordpress.com/2019/06/26/a-glimpse-of-pride/?fbclid=IwAR1sJ7W63rpSIDN_TpsBkwJZ9gzZKGLKdHYmGgOacDn3rIM0hyr2qlIKOiY
References:
Wikipedia articles: LGBT history in India, Section 377 of the Indian Penal Code, LGBT History, Rainbow Flag, Timeline of LGBT history, LGBT rights in India, Homosexuality in India, LGBT culture in India, human rights in India, History of Lesbianism, Yogyakarta Principles, Harvey Milk, Marsha P Johnson, Shakuntala Devi
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2019.04.03 21:00 MelanieAntiqua Ship Wars 4 - Tournament Edition; The Grand Finals

Here are the results of yesterday's matches:
Arkos defeated Bumblebee
Sea Monkeys defeated Land of Lesbos
Well, it seems like that Tumblr user decided to leave this one alone. Surprisingly, the anti-Bumblebee backlash wasn't as severe as I (or the comments) thought it would be, though. While Arkos did still win the match, it was actually a fairly close battle (i.e. the one result that I said I didn't think would happen yesterday). Meanwhile, Sea Monkeys continued its unprecedented Cinderella run by beating Land of Lesbos to become the first yaoi ship to reach the Finals.
With the Final Four finished, Here is the current bracket.
And now, for the moment that these last two months have all been building up to:
Grand Finals: Arkos (Jaune x Pyrrha) vs. Sea Monkeys (Sun x Neptune)
Our championship bout this year has 5th-seeded Arkos taking on 19th-seeded Sea Monkeys. It seems that the top seed of the tournament really is cursed, as Arkos was the only one of the Big Four to never make it here before, despite being the top seed in all three previous years. Shedding four seed places has actually allowed it to overcome that hurdle. Meanwhile, Sea Monkeys is the lowest-seeded ship to ever make it this far (that was true in the last round, too, of course), and the first yaoi ship to do so as well (again, also true of the previous round). Either of this ships winning here would be unprecedented. They'd each be the first ship that doesn't contain a member of Team RWBY (in fact, they'd also be the first ship to contain someone who isn't in Team RWBY), Arkos would be the first het ship, and Sea Monkeys would be the first yaoi ship (and the first double-digit seed). So, at the end of the day, which of these two ships will make history here?
Here is the poll for this match.
Third Place Match: Bumblebee (Blake x Yang) vs. Land of Lesbos (Saphron x Terra)
And don't forget about this match, where top-seeded Bumblebee is facing 7th-seeded Land of Lesbos. While it doesn't technically matter very much (all that the winner gets is their name permanently on the top of the bracket page underneath the first and second place finishers), it is still a neat little thing for bragging rights. Before the Tumblr Invasion and the subsequent backlash, it seemed unthinkable that Bumblebee would end up here. However, it seems like all that the Tumblr user who linked these polls managed to do was to create enough animosity to stop their favorite ship's seemingly-unstoppable victory run once they backed off (insert DJ Khaled saying "Congratulations, you played yourself" here). The result of this match will largely depend on how much of that animosity still remains now that the bees were knocked down a peg. Because, as great as Saphron and Terra's marriage is (and I'm sure there will be some people who bear no ill will towards Bumblebee and will just vote for Land of Lesbos based on that), this is basically a Bumblebee vs. Not Bumblebee match.
Here is the poll for this match.
Additionally, while I usually wait until the final results to announce the bracket winner, this year there is literally only one person it could be at this point. So, congratulations to JennyDoombringer for winning this bracket challenge. For disclosure reasons, I should state that Jenny has been my friend for a long time and has been dating my sister for a year and a half. However, I hope you all trust me when I say there was no collusion between her and I, and that I didn't affect the vote in any way that lead to her bracket challenge victory (remember, the last three winners were all people who I didn't know personally beforehand).
And now, let's finish this thing with the final battles!
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2019.04.02 21:03 MelanieAntiqua Ship Wars 4 - Tournament Edition; The Final Four

Here are the results of yesterday's matches:
Bumblebee defeated Pollination
Arkos defeated Renora
Land of Lesbos defeated White Rose
Sea Monkeys defeated Aurora Borealis
Now, I guess I should probably address the elephant in the room: somebody linked yesterday's thread on their Tumblr to instruct people to vote for Bumblebee. That is why the vote totals from these polls are so high. It seems they did the same thing happened on the first half of the Sweet Sixteen as well, and it definitely shows (just compare the vote totals from the first half of that round to the second half). While there technically isn't a rule against linking these polls on outside sites, it does kinda violate the spirit of things (especially since they just linked the polls themselves instead of the Reddit thread. I spend like an hour every day on this write-up, dammit). However, there is really no way to deal with the Tumblr votes, since they are all coming from individual people (unlike our spammer friend from earlier, who is still trying to do what they've been doing, even though I have them well under control). Now, I had the idea to re-do the tournament from the Elite Eight onward, but with Tiamat in place of Bumblebee (re-doing the first half of the Sweet Sixteen with ChaBEEleon in place of Bumblebee is also an option, though I doubt it would change all that much since Renora and Arkos almost certainly would've won their matches no matter what and, given the hostility towards Pollination that I saw in the Tumblr posts people linked related to Ship Wars, I doubt that it would change the Guns N Roses vs. Pollination match very much either). However, my wife and I are leaving for a week-long vacation on Saturday (and we'll be doing last-minute preparations for basically the entire day on Friday, i.e. the day after the Ship Wars final results are posted), so I won't be able to use Reddit very much during that time. So, if someone else wants to do take care of this do-over thing, I'll instruct you on how to set up Poll Maker polls and how to deal with spam votes (since, even if Tumblr doesn't take interest without Bumblebee being there, the usual spammer(s) will probably still rear their ugly head(s)) before I leave for vacation (or you can just ask PetersNachbar since he also has experience with all that as well). If this do-over ends up being a thing, I'll give whatever ship wins on there co-champion status along with whatever ship wins through the rest of this tournament (which, assuming Tumblr doesn't decide to leave these polls alone from here on out, will probably be Bumblebee), which will give that ship permanent auto-qualifier status going forward.
Just remember to try not to fly into a rage at "teh tumblrina commulist social studies warriors!1!!1" in the comments. It's not a good look. And, the angrier you get, the more people will deliberately want to mess with these polls just to upset the "Anti-SJW alt-right incel manchildren of Reddit". Yes, I know that this isn't an accurate description of this community by any means. However, if someone posts a collage of a bunch of comments complaining about Tumblr and Bumblebee on, say, Tumblr (or Twitter, or on certain other subreddits here on Reddit), those people who are unfamiliar with this community will assume that it's full of the sorts of people who usually spend all day on Reddit whining about Tumblr and LGBT characters/couples. And, like I said, that is not a good look.
Gather around, children, and let Grandma Melanie tell you a story of the good old days. By "the good old days", I mean "Late 2015". On a website known as GameFAQs, they were having a polling tournament to determine the "Best Game Ever". And one of the games competing was Undertale, a game much-beloved by the Tumblr community. Early on, there were some small rallies to get it to win over Mass Effect 3 and Fallout 3, and the GameFAQs community did not like that. Naturally, this collage of comments made the rounds throughout the internet and drew even more people to vote for Undertale specifically to spite these toxic GameFAQs users (and, unlike /RWBY, GameFAQs actually is the toxic cesspool that this collage makes it out to be. Trust me, I lurked on their Smash Bros Ultimate board a lot last year due to /smashbros banning character speculation and leak discussion posts (i.e. the most fun things about the lead-up to a Smash game's release). The people on that site are garbage). Despite not even having a Tumblr, this collage of comments eventually reached me (I forget if it was through Reddit or Twitter, honestly. It was over three years ago), and I myself even bothered showing up to vote for Undertale. I didn't even like Undertale all that much, honestly (it's an OK game and the writing is charming, but I don't like bullet hells very much and that's basically what the battle system is). Definitely not as much as games I grew up with, like Super Mario World, Pokemon Red & Blue, Super Smash Bros. Melee, and Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time. However, I saw all those toxic comments and felt like I should do my part to annoy these toxic people who were getting overly angry about dumb internet polls. Do I regret doing this? Not particularly, honestly. Like I said, unlike this subreddit, GameFAQs actually is a toxic cesspool. However, the moral in all of this is: regardless of how you feel about Tumblr's involvement in these polls, don't get too salty about it and don't post anything that could be spread around in some sort of "angry comment collage" that will not only reflect badly on this community, but also just lead to even more outsiders showing up to vote.
Remember: at the end of the day, this whole thing is just a meaningless popularity contest about which fictional characters should date each other. And, if you're still upset, remember that if you want to volunteer to do a do-over of these polls after this main tournament ends, I'll teach you how.
With that PSA done, Here is the bracket.
And now, for the Final Four:
Match 1: Bumblebee (Blake x Yang) vs. Arkos (Jaune x Pyrrha)
Our first match of the day has top-seeded Bumblebee taking on fifth-seeded Arkos. Arkos managed to beat the odds and overcome the other big JNPR ship, Renora, to get here. However, it now faces the unstoppable juggernaut that is Bumblebee. Basically, this match is going to go one of two ways: if Tumblr gets involved, Bumblebee will almost certainly win in a landslide. If that Tumblr user who has been linking to these polls decides that they won't do that anymore, I assume the anti-Bumblebee sentiment that's been rising on this subreddit through these past few rounds will lead to a landslide for Arkos. So, in other words, the only thing that I don't expect to happen would be a close match.
Here is the poll for this match.
Match 2: Land of Lesbos (Saphron x Terra) vs. Sea Monkeys (Sun x Neptune)
On the other side of the bracket, we have a matchup between two unlikely Final Four contenders. Land of Lesbos is the first ship to make the Final Four in its tournament debut (well, not counting the Big Four in the first tournament, since that was technically the tournament debut for every single ship involved). It also managed to prevent White Rose from reaching the Final Four for the first time in Ship Wars history (the other three of the Big Four all failed to make it this far last year). Sea Monkeys is the first-ever yaoi ship to make it this far (yes, yaoi in general. Not just "pure yaoi". Not even Entire Team has made it to the Final Four before). Sea Monkeys is also the lowest-ever seed to ever make the Final Four (beating out Pollination's previous record of making it as a 15th seed last year). One of these ships will continue their history-making run into the Grand Finals, but which one will it be?
Here is the poll for this match.
And now, let the Final Four begin!
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2018.12.07 09:32 LeatherConcern5 Lesbian story : You wanna a lovey girl but too pretty to be a lesbian

Lesbian story : You wanna a lovey girl but too pretty to be a lesbian
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“But you’re too pretty to be a lesbian.” I can’t count the number of times I’ve heard that ridiculous and infuriating objection from both men and women, and I wouldn’t want to try. What’s even worse is when they follow that up with, “You’re kidding, right, Amy?”
Yes, I’m pretty. I’ll admit it. But why does that mean I’m not a lesbian? Is there some sort of cut-off point? I’m petite, but I’m not flat. I have well-defined curves all over, I’m just small and thin. I have a delicate, young-looking sort of face. I have almost-curly brown hair to my shoulders and hazel eyes. My lips are a little pouty. I’ve taken taekwondo so my arms and legs are muscle-toned. My hips roll nicely when I walk. And, yes, I look pretty damned cute in my braces.
Where in there did I pass the, “Sorry, Amy, you’re not a lesbian anymore,” point?
“Well, you mean you’re bi, right?” some will follow-up.
No, I’m not bi. I don’t hate men, but I can’t get emotionally attached to them the same way, and I’m not attracted to them. Yes, I’ve seen a penis before. Yes, it was erect. No, it didn’t stir some hidden desire inside me.
“Oh, so you’re a virgin.”
No! I’m not a virgin. I am sexually active and in a committed relationship with a wonderful woman my own age.
I will admit, though, that I’m not particularly proud of how I lost my virginity. It was a couple years ago, around the time of my 18th birthday. At the time I was dating Angie, a cheerleader for the high school basketball team. We were seniors and had been dating for a couple of years at that point, but Angie especially was committed to waiting for sex until we could be life partners.
Well, the, “You can’t be a lesbian” stuff was laid on pretty thick in high school. There was plenty of room in people’s imagination for lurid fantasies about cheerleader locker-room lesbo orgies, but the idea of a cheerleader in a committed, basically chaste lesbian relationship was not something anyone in our school could handle. In their minds, Angie and I were just close friends who liked to make believe about being lovers.
A couple weeks after I turned 18, I decided I’d had enough. I still loved Angie, but I needed the world to accept that I was a lesbian, and there was only one way I could think to do it.
I approached a girl named Danielle, a 19 year-old high school senior with an air of exotic maturity about her, as well as a reputation as, well, a dyke and a slut. It was rumored that the only reason she’d finally made it to her senior year at 19 was a dalliance with the female assistant vice principal. I didn’t know if that was true, but her reputation counted for everything.
Danielle was sitting by herself on a bench outside of school waiting for her ride when I approached her. She was attractive, but rebel enough in her look that she didn’t have to put up with people dismissing her lesbianism. She was a gorgeous native Alaskan with creamy porcelain skin of an almost caramel hue, shiny black hair, flinty brown eyes, and an incredible figure. But she also had three nose-rings and a tattoo of a marijuana leaf on the back of her right hand. In Fairbanks that meant she was allowed to be a lesbian.
“Hi, Danielle,” I said, wishing my voice weren’t so sweet and perky.
She looked at me and nodded silently. She knew well enough who I was, but she didn’t really have anything to talk about with me, as far as she knew or cared.
“I need your help,” I told her simply, wishing I’d dressed sexier.
She looked at me questioningly, but still didn’t speak.
No reason to not just say it, I decided. “I need you to take my virginity and I need the world to know about it.”
She narrowed her pretty eyes. “How romantic.”
My cheeks burned with embarrassment. “Danielle, I’m sorry. I know this is rude, but I’m sick of no one believing I’m a lesbian. I love Angie, but I need to prove myself.”
“What, you want me to take your ass with a dildo in the gym while a bunch of people watch?”
I blushed even deeper. “Fuck you,” I finally said.
“No, fuck you,” she returned, getting up to walk you. “You’re too insensitive to be a lesbian.”
That burned, and I reeled for days. Then, on Angie’s 18th birthday, I had myself a plan.
My mom was going to be out of town on Friday night, so Angie and I made special plans for me to cook her dinner at my house. I told her to be prepared to spend the night, and while she was hesitant, I insisted that she at least be prepared to stay, even if she changed her mind later. She agreed, and the rest of the week, our hearts were aflutter and our stomachs full of butterflies.
And my spirit was still full of anger and pride. It’s almost painful to remember, but so intent was I on proving myself that I set up two hidden webcams in my house. One in the living room attached to my laptop and the other in my mom’s bedroom, attached to her computer. I even signed up an on-line site where I could post the videos, and used my own full name in screen name. I wanted there to be no doubt.
When Friday evening rolled around, I was excited and nervous all at once. I dressed in a pleated denim skirt with a light blue peasant blouse. Angie had seen my nipples once before and had been captivated by them, so I wore no bra under the lightweight top, which was loose enough that only shadows hinted at the sweet tidbits by which she was enthralled.
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2018.07.25 03:19 Break-The-Walls Sexual Immorality In The Spiritual Paradise Part I

Remember all of this the next time a Jehovah's Witness tells you about how corrupt and immoral the Church is.
I'm not going to copy and paste usernames, just now they are not my experiences.
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I remember in one hall in our district, there was this one brother who came back from Bethel. He was the poster child. A super duper uber jw. He got married, then got DFed, and divorced within a couple of months. Everyone was like wtf happened? What did he do? He was so good! How could this happen?
Turns out his wife found his porn magazine stash and turned him into the elders. Back then, porn was a big no no and resulted in a DF on the spot if I remember correctly. But I think nowadays, it's a pretty mild offense in the sense that you get a silent slap on the wrist and told not to watch it anymore or maybe a public reproof or if you're watching the real nasty stuff, a DF.
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We have a LONG-time pioneer woman in her 50s with a TOTAL dork of a husband who was an elder. THey'd been married for decades. They also have a daughter who is ALSO a pioneer and who ended up learning spanish and married a mexican ministerial servant.
Well, i think the mom got tired of her dorky husband and ended up shacking up with HER DAUGHTERS HUSBAND. She cheated on her husband with the son-in-law! It rocked our congregation pretty hardcore as they were people that were pillars in the congregation and had a LOT of family that attended. Needless to say she ruined her relationship with her daughter. Her husband took her back though. The daughter divorced her husband.
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36 years in, I saw or heard a bunch of these. The one that actually impacted me was the fact that one of the elders on my JC had been kicked out of bethel and reproved for cheating on his RP wife while they were in NY doing temp work. Five years later he's an elder again and telling me I "wasn't repentant enough." Let's just say, that I spoke my peace before standing up and revoking my request for reinstatement. Oh, and I doubt he will ever suggest repentance is on a sliding scale OR that he can judge it again.
Another one that I was impacted by was the RP that was 20 that was assigned to study with me when I was 12. She moved to our KH to help along with a couple that had just returned from a missionary assignment in Belize. They had been married like 15 years but were only in their late 30's. Anyway, because it was a drive, the 3 of them carpooled to and from meetings and service pretty much every day. After about two years, the elder and the RP that had studied with me, mentored me in service and insisted I AP during school breaks, ran off together. Turns out they had been screwing since the first car ride that the wife had missed due to sickness and every single chance since. It was notorious. I think the couple might have even been in an issue of the awake due to the missionary work and the fact they were interracial. Anyway, the two got df'd, disappeared, got married and came back after five-six years. Last I heard, he's an elder again.
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Heard of one where a circuit overseer ran away with a local elder.
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Asshole pompous elder that told me to be a better wife. Told a teen in the congregation that if she didn't shut up about a nearby elder that had molested her he'd make sure her entire family would be df'd. Hounded anyone that didn't follow his "encouragement" Just an over all asshole jerk watchtower company man.
Sneered in talks about jws who struggled financially because obviously they didn't do enough to have jehovahs blessing. Lived off thousands he borrowed from banks and credit cards. 2000s got here and the end he was counting on to erase his massive debt didn't come so he went on a drunken binge, ripped his house apart with an axe and other tools. Beat the hell out of his wife. Killed himself and left all the debt for his family to worry about.
Papers just said suicide. All the dirty stuff was hushed up but a police person I knew from work filled me in on the details.
There were countless elders and pioneers of over the years where the man would screw a young sister, confess, dump old wife and family, get reinstated in 6 months or so and continue being a good jw.
The old wife dump scheme got so prevalent that they increased the time they had to stay df'd but it didn't slow it down much in our area.
The wife swapping scandal and key parties I know of were in the Pennsylvania and Ohio areas. A couple of relatives were df'd for that one. This went on for years. It was a bunch of well to do couples from several circuits would drive to a city none were from. Stay in hotels and drink and party. About 4 of 20 couples got caught. Guilty conscience confession is what busted the 4 or so couples.. the rest slid by without being caught.
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Star of the District, special pioneer, anointed, married, elder, commits adultery with RP in same congo.
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Oh yeah, and one of the Elders who was on my judicial committee that decided to disfellowship me ended up running away with another Brother's wife a few years later, turns out they were having an affair for quite some time.
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Special pioneer couple in my hall. Very nice guy, the wife was always a little quiet. They had a 16-year-old kid who would follow them around. Turns out the SPECIAL PIONEER wife was screwing the 16-year boy. She got df'd, reinstated, then remarried a new guy who looked just like the 16-year-old. The elders told the family not to report it to the police so that it didn't bring shame on Jehovah's name.
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A ministerial servant in our hall was accused by a young girl of molesting her. Nobody believed her, then another girl spoke up. But, you know, the "Two Witness Rule", so nothing happened to him and we were told to keep quiet. We spread it around anyway, and soon half the congregation believed the girls and half didn't, but it got too divisive and the Elders kicked him out (after 3 months). Then two or three more girls ended up saying he did it to them too, and a few years ago, a guy I grew up with (he was like a little brother to me) said he molested him, too.
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SF Bay Area.
Elder appointed in his early twenties (late 1970's)
Very early on appointed as Presiding Overseer in any congregation he was assigned to. Often called by fellow elders "Superboy"
Very well spoken. Worked for HP as a upper level manager all despite never going to college. Assembly overseer for both district and circuit assemblies. Always has numerous parts on district and circuit assemblies. Served on countless special judicial committees.(some may not know those existed)
Becomes fulltime pioneer along with his wife. Eventually leaves HP and becomes a circuit overseer in mid-west.
Leaves circuit overseer position and returns to Bay Area (exact reasons unknown to me) So good as an HP manager that they give him his job back.
Becomes PO of congregation soon after return. Wife continues to pioneer. Wife gets cancer and dies.
Then the wheels fall off. He ends up fucking a married Pioneer sister. Gets disfellowshipped.
Gets re-instated and ends up marrying the Adulterous Pioneer sister's daughter,also a pioneer. (the daughter is at least 30 yrs his junior)
This was/is a super pious elder who once chewed out a fellow pioneer in the car group for using the word "pissed" in an anecdotal story. He also never confessed to his first daughter that she was conceived out of wedlock when the parents were teenagers before learning the "truth" in order to protect their reputation as clean.
This guy was "squeaky clean" for decades!
I imagine that having the husband of the adulterous pioneer and father of his new pioneer wife come in to the hall during a talk, walk up to him and his new wife and yell, "FIRST YOU FUCK MY WIFE AND NOW YOU'RE FUCKING MY DAUGHTER!" put him in a in a different spotlight than what he was used to. If he wasn't there already. The father of the new bride proceeded to try and beat the shit out of him.
Ha ha!
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I know of two. The first one involved a MS who was 26 at the time, I was 14. He was always hitting on me, and at first, being a shy teenager, I was flattered, but eventually, he kept trying to get me alone and I started feeling weird about that since he was so much older. Guess I should have said something at the time but I failed in that aspect. Anyways, flash forward 5 years. That same MS, who was 31 now, started petioning another girl who was 15 at the time. He got busted sneaking in through her bedroom window one night by her single mother. The girl was DF'd whereas he was reproved privately thanks to having an elder daddy.
The other scandal I know of involved an elders wife who got in touch with her high school sweetheart after only 2 months of marriage to her elder husband. She ran off to Pennsylvania for about a month, came back, apologized to her husband, and only spent 6 months DF'd. The whole debaucle shocked the congregation because she was such a great pioneer and her new husband was loaded. No one thought she had a reason to leave.
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An elder falls for this one "spiritually weak" sister, totally dressed like a skank lol (gee, I wonder why the poor virgin elder set his eyes on her...). You could totally tell his family was against that relationship - also the fact that she wasn't officially divorced either was part of that. One of his sisters totally wasn't hiding her feelings about it.
So one Sunday, we were out in the parking lot as we were all getting into our cars to leave. I see the elder talking to his GF, she's inside her car, he's talking outside of the car. His sister passes the car on the passenger side and slapped the car with her hand in anger. The GF starts screaming from the inside of the car, gets out, runs to face the sister... Screaming fest right there in the middle of the KH parking lot... until they start slapping and hitting each other. I swear this was like a fight in high school!! Elder had to pull them both apart with he help of his BIL, while the rest of us just stared in shock, like WTF is happening?!
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Annointed brothers wife went full lesbo for a younger sister in the hall. Then she wouldnt fess up even though we all knew they did it all the time and he was stuck with her.
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When I was young, my family moved to N.M. for a couple of years and we met this sister and her little girl that was about 5 years old. This elder was always picking up the little girl and taking her outside during the meeting at night. After we moved and the years passed by I saw this on this news. It was that elder and the little girl
http://goo.gl/YAHj4E
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My dad was an elder and when I was 11, it was discovered he had been cheating on my mom for a year with someone from work. He was df'd, my mom stayed with him and to this day(15 years later) they're still together and my dad is an elder again. Sometimes I wish they would've divorced to save our family the public humiliation and hellish home life that came after.
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Mom of 3 with wealthy and successful unbelieving husband cheats on unbelieving husband with elder. Both couples divorce, both sinners are df'd. Unbelieving hubby is so astonished that he drinks the kool aid and becomes a dub too! He is fast tracked to elder, then marries a hot young rp only 2 years older than his oldest kid, who by this time is in high school and knocked up (not yet baptized at this point so no jc). Cheating mom gets reinstated, remarried an elder and they're all happy as clams in the same congo, men on the same elder body 20 years later...
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My congregation was a typical "family cong". Big families, powerful in the hall, elders and sons multiplied by 10 type congregation.
Anyways, a married elder (lets call him Bro. D) in my hall decided to have an affair with another elders wife (Sis. Slut)... for 4 years... Once the elders in the hall decided to call him out (coincidentally a month after Bro. D's father, who happened to be the Cong Overseer, died) he and Sis. Slut got publicly reproofed. Then 4 months later, Bro. D and Sis. Slut got married (in another hall) and the elders said that they couldn't fault them for getting married because it had been done in Jehovah's house.
Keep in mind, in the whole process of the public reproof, Sis. Slut had moved in with Bro. D and no one said anything about it. No divorce finalized by either of the spouses and no action by the elders.
Fucked up the kids of those two families pretty badly. To the point where one of them appeared in a Hedly-(sucks) music video (oh my gahd nooo apahstate music)
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Had a Pioneer who decided to work at a local strip club.
She's hot, but she's also crazy. I'm perfectly fine never running into her again.
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Biggest scandal in my hall was my dad (the PO) being outed as a kiddie diddler. Pretty much destroyed the elder body, some moved away, some moved halls. Only the shittiest ones, his circle of friends, stayed behind to make my family's lives hell.
Second was an elder losing his shit during the Ministry School. Screamed at the audience, kicked his Bible off the stage, stormed out of the hall shouting obscenities. He was always a shifty eyed bastard, I suspected him of being a creep. He used to make the oddest comments about little girls shoes and feet. Crazy Eyes, we used to call him.
There were numerous porn scandals, but they were all pretty pedestrian.
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In the hall I grew up in, a mother was having sex with her son in law over a period of several years. The husband caught them in bed together. He went to the elders but because his wife and son in law denied it, the two witness rule came into play and the elders wouldn't free him scriptural from divorcing her. Also, everyone in the hall started picking sides and it became so bad, that all the elders in the hall were replaced with elders from bethel and other local brothers.
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A friend of mine, who was a MS, was getting married and two weeks before his marriage he caught the CO having sex with his fiancé.
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Local elder convicted of murdering his wife and another elder was convicted of molesting young JW girls Both were prosecuted by the same Lawyer who has written a book about many of his cases and writes about both of them. http://www.amazon.com/The-Humanity-Justice-Burke-Strunsky-ebook/dp/B00J46TNZO
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Elder's golden-boy son, fucked his MIL less than a month after his wife had their baby😐
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Not at my hall, but a few years ago in a neighboring hall, 3 different elders did a wife swap thing resulting in them all getting disfellowshipped - all 6 of them. One elder committed suicide a week after.
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Elder tried to kill my father. But my father deserved it, because he was fucking the elder's wife. Whole cong melted down. Those were some insane years.
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Newlywed couple has issues in the first year (no big surprise). An elder gives them marital counseling for a few months all the while focusing on the newlywed hot 18 year old girl that must have had issues of some sort.
He abruptly leaves his wife in the middle of the night, as well as his adult children (who ran his entire business); abandons his rather large and prospering business, his home, livelihood, and surprised everyone with moving a few states over with said 18 year old.
He wasn't df'd for any of that, in case you are wondering.
Must have been true love. /s
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In our last congregation - one of the elders wives ran off, but not with a brother, she went off with another sister and as far as I know both of them are still together as a lesbian couple. The sister must have had a crappy marriage to an overly domineering man IMHO - and as this elders kids are pioneers etc he had to step down. Makes one wonder what goes on behind closed doors in some of these houses.
Another one was a CO who I always had my doubts about. I observed him perving at sisters a few times & wondered just what sort of guy he really was. Then I heard that he had been DFd for leaving his wife and taking off with a pioneer sister!
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I knew a JW who is still a JW as far as I know who got his foot shot off in gang activity. Another time, him, my friend, and I were talking about girls. He then goes on about how great sucking on boobs was. He quickly began to backtrack once he realized who he was talking to.
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I know of a married elder that was sleeping with another married woman in the congrigation.
He served on the JC for that womans husband and DF'd him!!!
And then he continued to 'comfort' that woman through her divorce.
Eventually she got pissed off at him because he wouldn't leave his wife and she confessed and exposed him.
It's funny because I remember someone telling me this and saying "see! Jehovah exposes everyone eventually, he doesn't allow sinners to stay in his congrigation"
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My pioneeeldeService Overseer (had a young daughter at the time) was beating his pioneer wife/mother of his child, and boning his wife's best friend, who also was a pioneer.
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There was a rumour a while ago about female pioneers in Denmark that were caught making a living on making porn...
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PO while married while living at Grantville Assembley hall fucking a new single mom in the hall. Whos husband had just died from Brain cancer who then leaves his wife for her when she annouces she has breast cancer.
Oh and this cunt was trying to DF me for making jokes Online
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An elder at my old hall acted all superior and holier than thou at the meetings.... He got arrested a year ago for having an affair with a 15 year old girl. Everyone keeps saying "Oh, it might not be true." The mother of the girl is the one that forced her daughter to go to the police. A 30 year old women also came forward. She said they had a similar "relationship" when she was 15... I feel so bad for his wife. For as indoctrinated as she is (she is a pioneer) she was always sweet.
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Elders kids got drunk and smoked weed nearly every weekend and parents dragged them out in field service the next day with hangovers and a few of them puked on doorsteps or sidewalks.
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Wife swapping in some congregations in England (Not a rumor). CO told me that he avoids asking how are the sister's spouses during his visit because the sister's husband will be another's. During the 6 months he's gone, the people involved were judicially heard (slapped on the wrist) then came back to the congregation as active and exemplary Jdubs. Ready for another round of wife swapping I supposed.
This goes to show that Elders can go around and see a loophole in the Watchtower's rules to protect their friends.
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A pioneeelder in my hall who was married and had three kids. The dude would look to get people in trouble and caused it all the time. Little did we all know that he was banging another pioneer brother's teenage daughter while keeping up his uberdub charades. (He even spoke in the Holy Monotone voice.)
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Two married pioneer couples that were good friends. They ended up swapping partners and getting remarried. They stayed friends after and still hung out
This guy who dated my sister in law was always a piece of shit. Even by normal people’s standards. Getting drunk all the time at 18 years Old. Going to high school parties and doing drugs. Sex with a former girlfriend. The works. He married my sister in law and they both got disfellowshipped. While they were married he started dealing drugs and abusing her. Any time something happened he would put on the angel act for his parents and they would buy it. They get divorced and 3 months after they found out he was sleeping with another girl he gets reinstated.
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A MS Husband in our congregation spent our entire childhood beating his wife. Everyone thought it was funny that she wore sooooo much makeup until we realized that it was to cover the bruises. Sad.
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Had a friend who used to go out and get drunk with. He was bapped, I wasn't at the time. His dad was an elder and this friend had lots of responsibilities at his hall.
We would often head out, drink like fish, I would drink drive his car back to his parent's bungalow, let myself in quietly and go to bed. Around 4am he would get a cab back from whichever girl's house he's been fucking, tip toe around the building, tap on his bedroom window and I would help him climb in.
We both fall asleep, then it was time to get up at 9am and get ready for the Sunday meeting.
It was always funniest when he had to read the Watchtower with a banging hangover.
We've lost contact since, but are both df'd
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My own brother. I was fading, he was out going to blowjob parties when parents were away. About 20 teenagers would get together, including elders' kids. My dad thought it was strange they were always hanging out, and saw them getting BJs thru a window. Not one of them got reproved publicly or DF'd.
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Guy gets baptized at convention, that night to celebrate goes down to Tijuana and gets himself a prostitute.
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My ex friend/roommate. He was DFd at the time but trying to get back in(for the 2nd or 3rd time) and I was fading. He was a full on alcoholic and would often beat his dog when he was drunk. He smoked, did cocaine and often used that to get girls to "party". He fucked a lot of chicks. He was a salesperson so he lied constantly to get sales. When we finally parted ways he extorted money out of me. Months later he got arrested for getting drunk and assault with a deadly weapon.
I find out later he did all this and STILL got reinstated.
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I've known of wife swapping and caught a married elders son in a strip club. I found out years after I left, from other souces that left, that there was plenty of sex going on within our congregation including the the solicitation of prostitutes. F- - - - - - g Hippocrates.
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2017.11.22 09:17 BadBoy6767 2d girls are better

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2017.09.28 18:44 llosx llosx's 2017 OHMC

4th year doing the 31 movie challenge, 3rd year doing the checklist, 2nd year doing the theme weekends.
Previous Years:
2014 - 2015 - 2016
2017
No. Date * Title Year
01 10/01 * Swamp Thing 1982
02 10/02 * The Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2 1986
03 10/03 * Mardi Gras Massacre 1978
04 10/04 * Mark Of The Vampire 1935
05 10/05 * The Crazies 1973
06 10/06 * Season Of The Witch 1973
07 10/07 * Martin 1978
08 10/08 * Mad Monster Party? 1967
09 10/09 * Las garras de Lorelei (The Loreley's Grasp) 1974
10 10/10 * Habit 1997
11 10/10 * House Of Frankenstein 1944
12 10/11 * Critters 1986
13 10/12 * Christine 1983
14 10/12 * Lycanthropus (Werewolf In A Girls' Dormitory) 1961
15 10/13 Friday The 13th 1980
16 10/13 * Alucarda 1978
17 10/14 * Frankenweenie 2012
18 10/14 * Elvira, Mistress Of The Dark 1988
19 10/15 * Picnic At Hanging Rock 1975
20 10/16 * Pit And Pendulum [incomplete] 1913
21 10/17 * Trigger Man 2007
22 10/17 * Attack Of The Crab Monsters 1957
23 10/19 * The Legend Of Boggy Creek 1972
24 10/19 * L'uccello dalle piume di cristallo (The Bird With The Crystal Plumage) 1970
25 10/19 * Kong: Skull Island 2017
26 10/20 * Happy Death Day 2017
27 10/21 * Thirst 1979
28 10/22 The Rocky Horror Picture Show 1975
29 10/23 * The House Of The Devil [crew commentary] 2009
30 10/24 * Tales That Witness Madness 1973
31 10/24 * Village Of The Damned 1960
32 10/25 * Near Dark 1987
33 10/26 * Blacula 1972
34 10/26 Candyman 1992
35 10/27 * Dracula's Daughter 1936
36 10/27 * Et mourir de plaisir (Blood And Roses) 1960
37 10/28 * Vampyros Lesbos 1971
38 10/29 C.H.U.D. 1984
39 10/30 * Spalovač mrtvol (Cremator) 1969
40 10/31 Nosferatu, eine Symphonie des Grauens (Nosferatu, A Symphony Of Horror) 1922
41 10/31 Dracula [English-language version] 1931
42 10/31 * 地獄 (Jigoku) 1960
43 10/31 Hocus Pocus 1993
TV
Date Show Ep. Title Year Length
10/02 Tim & Eric's Bedtime Stories 2x06 "Butter" 2017 :30
10/02 Ghosted 1x01 "Pilot" 2017 :30
10/03 OK K.O.! Let's Be Heroes 1x38 "Parents Day" 2017 :15
10/08 Ghosted 1x02 "Jermaine The Zombie" 2017 :30
10/14 The Real Ghostbusters 4x09 "The Halloween Door" 1989 :30
10/15 Ghosted 1x03 "Whispers" 2017 :30
10/22 Ghosted 1x04 "Lockdown" 2017 :30
10/23 The Walking Dead 8x01 "Mercy" 2017 1:00
10/25 Speechless 2x05 "N-I-Nightmare On D-I-DiMeo Street" 2017 :30
10/25 Fresh Off The Boat 4x04 "It's A Plastic Pumpkin, Louis Huang" 2017 :30
10/26 The Simpsons 29x04 "Treehouse Of Horror XXVIII" 2017 :30
10/27 Great News 2x05 "Night Of The Living Screen" 2017 :30
10/30 The Walking Dead 8x02 "The Damned" 2017 1:00
10/31 SpongeBob SquarePants 2x36a "Graveyard Shift" 2002 :15
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Rome did eventually conquer Greece. It started by taking over Corinth in 146 BC. From there it expanded to the rest of Greece. Julius Caesar won a civic crown for putting down a revolt at Mitylene on the Greek Island of Lesbos.
The first real projection of united Greek power was in the Trojan War (it's hard to put a date on this). Even say,Thucydides admits that word 'Hellene' had not yet spread to encompass all the Greeks. Instead the Greeks in the Trojan War were called 'Argives' and 'Danaans'. Only Achilles' troops were called 'Hellenes' because they came from the same area as 'Hellen'.
For most of Greek history, the Greeks were divided (Thanks to the geography) into city-states (Sparta, Athens, Argos, Corinth). Greece was forced to come together to defeat the Persians in the Greco-Persian war (as recorded by Herodotus). After this, Sparta's rule over Greece diminished.
They mainly controlled the Peloponnese. Athens grew in power, thanks to their outstanding victories at Marathon and Salamis. They even sacrificed their city for the victories.
The individual Greek states on the mainland decided to leave Sparta's league and follow Athens' new 'Delian' league (based at Delos). This marked Athens' golden age (Ruled by Pericles for 50 years). During this period, Athens produced many of the great works we associate with it.
Eventually, Athens lost to Sparta in the Peloponnesian war and their golden age ended, though bright minds like Plato and Aristotle lived on.
The Romans eventually took the place of Greece in the world but the Greeks still had major influence in the eastern part of the roman empire. The Eastern Roman Capital, Byzantium/Constantinople was based between Greece and Turkey. Greece produced most of the Byzantine culture.
Greece's primacy in the world ended with the Muslim invasion and subjugation of Constantinople and the rest of the Eastern Roman Empire. The crusades managed to stall this but not for long. From there it went downhill.
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2016.12.25 11:42 MetasequoiaLeaf Update 9: My first-time-viewer girlfriend has seen The Body. And, er, the rest of season 5. We couldn't help ourselves.

Prior posts: Buffy 1, Buffy 2, Buffy 3, Buffy 4, Angel 1, Buffy 5, Buffy 6, Angel 2, Buffy 7, Angel 3, Buffy 8, Angel 4, Buffy 9, Angel 5. Latest Angel.
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After we saw Into the Woods, my girlfriend had this to say:
"I'm conflicted. I don't like Riley, so I'm happy. But Buffy is sad, so I'm sad."
Pretty sure that's the majority opinion at this point in the series.
She's getting more and more on Spike's side, as you'll see going forward.
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She was surprised that the triangle in Triangle was Anya-Xander-Willow. She didn't see why Anya had any reason to be jealous of Willow, especially wondering, "Why now?" I pointed out that Anya came into the series because Xander cheated on Cordelia with Willow, and to a thousand-plus-year-old ex-demon that would feel very recent; and, more to the point, Xander and Willow are and have been close friends for most of their lives, and they had a connection that Anya couldn't match. Anya and Xander have their own, different connection, but he and Willow will always be close. She nodded sagely at that.
She also keeps telling Spike to "ganbare!", a Japanese word that's difficult to translate exactly but basically means "try!" or "do your best!" She wants him to become good through his love for Buffy. Him pointedly not drinking from Olaf's victims was more endearing to her than it was to Buffy I guess.
~~
She liked Checkpoint, though perhaps not as much as I do. She liked seeing Buffy be cool with her closing speech about power (which I adore), and liked seeing her put her trust in Spike towards the end.
She was also amused at the brief use of Japanese in the episode.
~~
I know a lot of people, admittedly including myself at first, aren't the biggest fans of Dawn initially. My girlfriend, on the other hand, has been sympathetic to her from the get-go see my previous post), and Blood Ties further reaffirmed that affection.
I think it's a testament to the quality of this show's writing that there are such a wide variety of opinions about each character. For basically every character, you'll find people who love them, people who hate them, people who couldn't care less about them, people who like them in some seasons but not others... they feel like real, fully-fleshed out people, with strengths and weaknesses, flaws and foibles, and that's what makes them such compelling characters.
That's a big part of why I love watching this show with my girlfriend so much. It's so fascinating to see where her opinions are going to differ from mine. I loved Tara from the moment she appeared on screen, but my girlfriend really missed Oz and took a while to warm to her. I was never that interested in Angel as a character until he got a bit more fleshed-out on his own show; meanwhile, my girlfriend's obsession with Angel has been well documented. She's highly opinionated and she's not afraid to voice those opinions, and I love her for it.
Also, she wasn't really all that shocked when Ben turned into Glory. She already knew Ben was "warui", so I guess the fact that he is Glory wasn't particularly surprising to her. (I briefly considered pretending not to remember Ben is Glory, for the joke, but like with the Dawn thing, I didn't want to lie to her, especially since she still sometimes asks me to explain certain things to her.)
~~
My girlfriend has been saying for a while now that she wanted to see Drusilla again, so when she showed up again in Angel, my girlfriend was initially very glad to see her. However, her actions over on that series...well, check out the Angel reactions post for that. At any rate, she was significantly less eager to see Dru back this time round, especially since she's so heavily rooting for Spike to be good. Dru's influence on Spike was met with many "Yabai!"s (roughly, "Dangerous!" or "Not good!").
~~
Before we watched I Was Made to Love You, I informed my girlfriend that we would be deviating from our standard Buffy-Angel-Buffy-Angel watch order to watch two Buffy episodes in a row, and then two Angel episodes in a row. I also informed her that if we watched this next one, we had to watch both. Not surprisingly, this concerned her greatly. But, I felt it was necessary to make sure we watched The Body straight away.
Throughout the ep, my girlfriend had a lot of sympathy for April. She tends to go for the pathos characters.
As much as she's rooting for Spike at the moment, she still really appreciated Giles' "We are not your way to Buffy" moment. She commented that he's a good father-figure for Buffy, straight-up calling him her "otōsan" (father).
I needn't've worried about continuing to the next episode before. After the final scene where Buffy finds Joyce on the couch, she demanded, "Next!" I obliged.
~~
My girlfriend handled watching The Body with incredible grace. It is not an easy episode to watch. I've seen it easily half a dozen times, and I still got misty-eyed. She didn't cry, not once. But she also didn't get faux-mad at me for showing her a sad story. She acknowledged the episode as not just sad, not just moving, not just good dramatic storytelling, but also important.
We talked about how the episode portrayed each character's different ways of expressing grief, and what each response says about said character. (Xander is angry, Willow is anxious, Tara is empathetic, Anya is confused, Giles is all business and trying to be productive, Dawn is devastated and in denial, and Buffy is mostly...numb.)
We had already discussed, when we watched Hush, how this show helped convince American audiences and critics that television can tell compelling stories, and how the current era of TV being not terrible was ushered in, in part, by this series. The Body does a great deal to reaffirm that.
I also pointed out that Willow and Tara shared their first on-screen kiss this episode.
~~
She had a lot less to say about Forever. She liked seeing Spike helping Dawn, and continued to feel for Buffy's sister.
But mainly she was just glad to see Angel and Buffy back together, however briefly.
It was also around this point that she mentioned how glad she was that we were watching Buffy and Angel together (hint, hint), saying she liked the contrast, how Buffy could have a sad story and go through this terrible loss, while Angel gets a more uplifting story about reuniting with his team, and vice versa, and so on. She also indicated that she liked the added weight knowledge of both series gave the crossover events like this one, and I couldn't agree more.
~~
She was very entertained while watching Intervention. She didn't care that Spike built a sexbot in Buffy's likeness, she was just happy to see him refuse to tell Glory about Dawn being the Key, and appreciated Buffy's respect for that. Plus the Buffybot was funny.
She maintains that Angel is the best, but it looks like Spike will do.
On to the final arc!
~~
Before we watched Tough Love, I again informed my girlfriend that we would not be watching the next Angel episode after this, but would instead be watching Buffy-Buffy-Buffy-Buffy, then Angel-Angel-Angel-Angel. To my girlfriend, this was again cause for considerable alarm. Multi-parters mean drama, and in Buffy, as she knows, drama means sadness.
As an aside, we've been following a watch-order of my own design. It sticks to production/air date order, except in the case of multi-parters, with special consideration given to crossover events. (All the ones I've seen switch Fool for Love and Darla, among other confusing choices, so I made one of my own.) I can see the argument if someone thinks the Buffy "protect Dawn from Glory" 4 episode arc and the Angel "Pylea" 4 episode arc should be watched in air date order, so you go straight from Buffy's death in The Gift to Angel's discovery of it, but I prefer to keep the final arcs of each connected, instead of breaking each up with the other. That way you're watching two complete, coherent stories, one after the other, rather than, "Here's Buffy fleeing from Glory! But meanwhile, back on the demon-dimension-ranch..." I think it's better to get Buffy's complete story, and then, "Here's what Angel and company were doing while all that was going on." I honestly also think that the impact of seeing Angel learn about Buffy's passing can be given more weight by a bit of distance, so you've almost forgotten what happened to the Slayer what with all the crazy, wacky demon dimension stuff, and then all at once you're forced to confront it, just like Angel is.
Anyway, the episode. My girlfriend found Willow and Tara's fight a little hard to follow. Phrases like "lesbo street cred" aren't exactly things she's encountered before, living her whole life in Japan. So, as usual, I walked her through what she'd missed. I explained Willow's frustration with her inability to properly emphasize, and Tara's struggle with Willow's continually growing power, and finally, Tara's concern that Willow's romantic affections for her were less than permanent.
Another aside: I know a lot of modern audiences are put off by what they see as bi-erasure. Willow was straight, until she met Tara, and she suddenly and completely wasn't, and never does anyone so much as breathe the word "bisexual." That never bothered me, however, for two reasons. First, the show is a product of its time, so even having a lesbian character in the main cast is impressive, even without getting into some of the nuances of the spectrum of sexuality. Second, I think the show is actually doing something a bit more subtle than people tend to give it credit for.
All the evidence in the show seems to indicate that Willow is in fact bisexual. Her attraction to Giles, her muted but ever-present affection for Xander, her feelings for Oz...Willow is clearly still attracted to men. But I think there's a very good reason why she nonetheless identifies as a lesbian exclusively. A lot of bisexual people, bisexual women in particular, face a stigma in the gay community. People assume they're "experimenting," or "doing it for attention," and that they'll go back to dating men once they've "had their fun." It's messed up, but it's what a lot of people think, and it leads a lot of bisexual folks in relationships to identify exclusively as one or the other. In this little spat, Tara expresses exactly that concern, putting Willow in an uncomfortable position. (Sidebar to the sidebar: to those people, whom I know exist, who think Tara is "too perfect," I point to this, and her many other sometimes crippling insecurities.) Of course Willow's not going to admit to still being attracted to dudes. And even then, in this scene, she doesn't actually claim that she isn't. She just tries to reassure Tara that she does in fact love her. And yes, I explained all this to my girlfriend.
All right, enough of my asides. Back to her reactions.
My girlfriend has been predicting that Willow would grow stronger and become a powerful witch for quite some time, and in a lot of ways, this attack on Glory is the beginning of the culmination of that, before we begin to explore the consequences of that climb in power (with, erm, mixed effectiveness) next season.
We also talked about how this episode is all about the different challenges of loving someone. Buffy's struggle to protect Dawn, Willow and Tara's first fight, Willow's devastation over Tara's brain being drained, Spike's injuries from refusing to give up the Key's identity to Glory...love can be hard. Luckily our relationship is perfect and we never have any problems.
And then Glory rips the wall off, and learns that Dawn is the Key, and my girlfriend understands why we're watching the next episode without stopping to check in on the happenings in LA.
~~
We both had a lot less to say about Spiral. It's a lot of action and fleeing and drama.
I don't think she ever was convinced Giles was going to die.
The ending really demands that one continue on to the next episode, and so did my girlfriend. So we did.
~~
The Weight of the World, too, I see as more of a vehicle to get all the pieces into place for the next episode than that much of a story in its own right. I tried to get a discussion going about what she thought the right thing to do was; would it be right to kill Dawn to protect the world? To kill Ben? But she again just wanted to proceed to the next episode. She was eager to see the conclusion. Can't really blame her.
~~
The Gift is fantastic. It is the perfect culmination of and conclusion to this season. Every episode from season 5 comes back in some way. Every character gets a chance to shine.
When Xander proposed to Anya, she gave her strongest, "Why now?!" yet. That made me laugh.
In the moment while Giles was suffocating Ben, she called out, "Yabai!" But afterwards, she acknowledged the necessity of it, how Giles was protecting Buffy and her heroic identity by doing the thing that she could not. She called him, once again, a good father, and declared, "He is so...adult!"
My girlfriend was initially upset that the season had a "sad ending," but I told her I don't think Buffy's death is a sad moment. Buffy is a hero, through and through, and her sacrifice is the ultimate realization of that heroism. She came around...to a degree.
She said she felt the worst for Spike, whom we see crying over Buffy's death at the end. Spike had come so far, and, to my girlfriend, proved himself capable of good, and of heroism, but he couldn't save Dawn or Buffy in the end.
She had of course seen all my DVDs already, and we had discussed the future seasons in vague, non-spoilery terms, so of course she knew that the show was coming back, and predicted that Buffy would be resurrected by a spell, or a demon, or something. "I know this show by now," she informed me. She also mentioned that if she had been watching the show as it aired, she would have written in to demand that they continue the story.
Now, I informed her, it was time to find out what Angel had been doing this whole time. Again, see here for that. (Am I pushing that hard enough?)
~~
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~~
Since she was so upset with Buffy's death, we proceeded into Angel season 3/Buffy season 6 pretty much immediately.
Bargaining (parts 1 and 2) was definitely not the return she was expecting. She had predicted, as I mentioned above, that Buffy would be brought back by a spell or something, though I think she, like perhaps most viewers on their first watch-through, hadn't anticipated the consequences of that.
She was sad to see Giles leave. She picked up instantly on the changed opening credits, so she understands that we're going to be seeing less of him this season. She misses his little finger-raise from Hush; we had taken to doing it with him as the credits played. It's such a good encapsulation of his role in the Scoobies and his character, how could you not love it?
She was thrilled to see Spike continuing to protect Dawn, even without Buffy in the picture.
~~
She also appreciated seeing Spike and Buffy reunited in After Life.
She was a bit jokingly upset when the word "thaumogenesis" came up, because good god, she's not a native English speaker, and that is not an easy word! I reassured her that she didn't have to worry about a word like that; not even native speakers should be expected to know what the heck "thaumogenesis" is supposed to mean.
She also had a little trouble understanding Buffy and Spike's conversation at the end of the episode.
"What can they never know?" she inquired. "Is she...not Buffy?"
I explained that, no, that's definitely Buffy, but she wasn't rescued from hell, like her friends believe she was; she was dragged out of heaven. Kinda worse, when you think about it.
~~~~
And that's where we are at the moment! I'll post another update soon, I imagine, as we proceed through the rest of season 6. It should be fun; she has no idea OMWF is coming up, for one thing. That's gonna be good.
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2016.08.24 13:41 pm_me_dat_punani [CONFLICT]Operation Hanging Gardens

Assets involved

Italy will commit in the Air:
Stealth:
Standard:
Italy will commit in the Sea:

Royal Hellenic Army.

Designation Classification Quantity Notes
M270B1 MRLS 18 102 MGM-140 ATACMS cruise missiles between them.
  • The Royal Hellenic Army shall launch its stock of MGM-140 ATACMs cruise missiels from positions on Crete and Gavdos Island against targets and positions on the Northen Egyptian coast.

Royal Hellenic Air Force

Air Base Squadron Aircraft Aircraft Quantity Role
Tanagra Air Base 331st All Weather Squadron "Theseus" Eurofighter Typhoon Tranche 3B 30 Perform Combat Air Patrols, Quick Reaction Alerts and general Combat Operations over Crete and the Aegean Sea.
Tanagra Air Base 332nd All Weather Squadron "Falcon" Eurofighter Typhoon Tranche 3B 30 Perform Combat Air Patrols, Quick Reaction Alerts and general Combat Operations over Crete and the Aegean Sea.
[Elefsis Airport 332nd Interception Squadron "Ajax" Eurofighter Typhoon Tranche 3B 30 Take over from 331st Squadron once they start returning to base.
Tatoi Airport 340th Interception Squadron "Nike" Eurofighter Typhoon Tranche 3B 30 Take over from 332nd Squadron once they start returning to base.
Kastelli Airport 133th Combat Group F-16V Fighting Falcon 18 Combat Operations over Crete
Tripoli Airport 336th Bomber Squadron "Olympus" Lockheed Martin F-35A Lightning II 30 Participate in bombing raids on on the Northen Coast of Egypt on internal fuel. Perform a mid-air fefueling operation on the return journey to Greece if necessary and if the latter is not possible land at Souda Bay Air Base or Kastelli Airport
Elefsis Airport 380th AEW&C Squadron "Uranus" Embraer E-145H Erieye 12 Perform Aereal Early Warning & Control Operations over the battlespace
Andravida Air Base 390th Aereal Refueling Squadron "Hera" Airbus A400M Atlas modified for Aereal Refueling 13 Provide aerel refueling for returning F-35A aircraft aswell as wider coalition air assets
Maleme Airport 391sh Aereal Refueling Squadron "Aphrodite" KC-135 Stratotanker 12 Provide aereal refueling for coalition air assets and provide aereal refueling for returning F-35A aircraft should the Airbus A400M Atlas aircraft not be available
Araxos Air Base 353th Maritime Patrol Squadron "Poseidon" Boeing P-8H Poseidon 24 Provide maritime patrol and surveilance between Sicily and Cyprus for the coalition.
  • The Royal Hellenic Air Force's main objectives are to provide air cover from the Egyptian Air Force for allied fleets and for the Island of Crete. By implementing a rotation system at least 60 Eurofighter Typhoons shall be in the air over Crete at any given moment.
  • Greek F-35As shall take advantage of their stealth and participate in bombing Egyptian air defense, anti-ship, cruise missiles and other lethal systems. Depending on how much fuel they have left they will either refuel in mid air, divert to Israel or Cyprus (UK sovereign bases) or land at an Souda Bay Air Base on Crete which have been earmarked for the US.
  • The RHAF shall strive to provide a large degree of aereal refueling for the coalition air force.

Royal Hellenic Navy.

First Squadron.

  • Based out of Salamis Naval Base.
Class Ships Missile Armament Per ship Notes
Kimon-class AAW Destroyer RHNS Kimon, RHNS Neachos 8x Perseus ASM and supersonic cruise missiles, 48x Aster 30 Block 2 missiles, 16x quadpacked CAMM-ER missiles (64 total) 1x torpedo, Sea Venom or Martlet missile-armed NH90 per ship
Sfendoni-class Multipurpose Frigate RHNS Sfendoni, RHNS Nafkatrousa, RHNS Aspis, RHNS Lonchi, RHNS Thyella, RHNS Navarinon 8x Perseus ASM and supersonic cruise missiles, 24x SCALP Naval cruise missiles, 16x Aster 30 Block 2 missiles, 8x quadpacked CAMM-ER missiles (32 total) 2x torpedo, Sea Venom or Martlet missile-armed NH90s per ship
Papanikolis-class Submarine RHNS Papanikolis, RHNS Pipinos, RHNS Matrozos, RHNS Katzonis 533mm torpedoes, IDAS missiles
Arethousa-class Replenishment Ship RHNS Arethousa - Refueling At Sea operations

Second Squadron.

  • Based out of Souda Bay Naval Base.
Class Ships Missile Armament Per Ship Notes
Kimon-class AAW Destroyer RHNS Formion, RHNS Thermistocles 8x Perseus ASM and hypersonic cruise missiles, 48x Aster 30 Block 2 missiles, 16x quadpacked CAMM-ER missiles (64 total) 1x torpedo, Sea Venom or Martlet missile-armed NH90 per ship
Sfendoni-class Multipurpos Frigates RHNS Miaoulis, RHNS Kountouriotis, RHNS Sachtoris, RHNS Tombazis, RHNS Apostolis, RHNS Kriezis 8x Perseus ASM and supersonic cruise missiles, 24x SCALP Naval cruise missiles, 16x Aster 30 missiles, 8x quadpacked CAMM-ER missiles (32 total) 2x torpedo, Sea Venom or Martlet missile-armed NH90s per ship
Papanikolis-class Submarine RHNS Argonaftis, RHNS Delfin, RHNS Triaina, RHNS Xifas 533mm torpedoes, IDAS missiles
Arethousa-class Replenishment Ship RHNS Ariadne Replenishment At Sea

Third Squadron.

  • Based out of Salamis Naval Base.
Class Ships Missile Armament Per Ship Notes
Aetos-class Corvette RHNS Aethos, RHNS Lerax, RHNS Leon, RHNS Panthir 8x Perseus ASM and hypersonic cruise missiles, 8x SCALP Naval cruise missiles, 8x Aster 30 Block 2 missiles, 8x quadpacked CAMM-ER missiles (32 total) 1x torpedo, Sea Venom or Martlet missile-armed NH90
Hydra-class frigates RHNS Hydra, RHNS Spetsai 8x Harpoon ASMs, 32x RIM-162 ESSM

Fourth Squadron.

  • Based out of Souda Bay Naval Base.
Class Ships Missile Armament Per Ship Notes
Aetos-class Corvette RHNS Vasilefs Georgios., RHNS Vasilefs Konstantinos, RHNS Vasilissa Olga, RHNS Vasilissa Sofia 8x Perseus ASM and hypersonic cruise missiles, 8x SCALP Naval cruise missiles, 8x Aster 30 Block 2 missiles, 8x quadpacked CAMM-ER missiles (32 total) 1x torpedo, Sea Venom or Martlet missile-armed NH90
Hydra-class frigates RHNS Psara,, RHNS Salamis 8x Harpoon ASMs, 32x RIM-162 ESSM

Fifth Squadron.

  • Based out of Souda Bay Naval Base.
Class Ships Armament Notes
Papanikolis-class Submarine RHNS Amfrititi, RHNS Poseidon, RHNS Nirefs, RHNS Protefs 533mm torpedoes, IDAS missiles
  • First and Second Squadron will group up with the Italian Nay's ships to form a combined fleet, Their main task is to protect the combined fleet and to launch SCALP Naval cruise missiles up to 1,400 kilometers into Egyptian territory targeting SAM siites, TELs, ballistic mimssile sites, ASM sites, army, navy and air bases and other military targets. The Perseus missile may also be used to attack shore targets if deemed necessary.
  • Third and Fourth Squadron are tasked with performing sea-denial operations in Greek waters and the Greek SEZ. They are equiped and authorized to engage Egyptian surface and subsurface threats. Furthermroe they are also equiped with SCALP Naval Cruise missiles to attack targets in Egypt similair to the First and Second Squadrons.
  • The Fifth Squadron is tasked with patrolling the waters between Crete, Israel and Cyprus and engage any Egyptian warship it encounters. To defend itself fro maereal threats it's submariens are equiped with the IDAS missile), as are all other RHN submarines.
  • 20 MM-40 Exocet Block 3 mobile launchers will be stationed on Crete, Gavdos Island and other Greek islands. They shall have 252 missiles at their disposal and engage any Egyptian warships which come in range.
  • The RHN shall keep her fleet of Fast Attack Craft, Mine Countermeassure Vessels and other warships in reserves to be called upon at a later date if needed.
  • All 127mm guns are armed with VULCANO ammunition for attacking targets over a distance of up to 120 kilometers and all 76mm guns are armed with Strales/Davide ammunition to engage targets at a distance of up to 40 kilometers.

Air Defense.

Site System Launchers Notes
Southen Greece THAAD 9 launchers 10 batteries total. Controlled by USAF personnel.
Salamis Naval Base Eurosam SAMP/T 6
Souda Bay Naval Base Eurosam SAMP/T 6
Andravida Air Base Eurosam SAMP/T 6
Araxos Air Base Eurosam SAMP/T 6
Elefsis Military Airport Eurosam SAMP/T 6
Tanagra Air Base Eurosam SAMP/T 6
Tatoi Military Airport Eurosam SAMP/T 6
Larisa Military Airport Eurosam SAMP/T 6
Souda Bay Air Base Eurosam SAMP/T 6
Tripoli Military Airport) Eurosam SAMP/T 6
Kastelli Military Airport Eurosam SAMP/T 6
Tympaki Military Airport Eurosam SAMP/T 6
Thessaloníki International Airport / Mikra Air Base Eurosam SAMP/T 6
Heraklion S-300VM4 8
Crete TOR-M!-2U 4 6 batteries + one sole launcher scattered around the Island
Palaiochora S-400) 8
Plakias S-400 8
Tympaki Military Airport S-400 8
Pyrgos S-400 8
Kastelli Airport S-400 8
Lerapetra S-400 8
Kissamos Arrow 2 6
Chania Arrow 2 6
Rethymmo Arrow 2 6
Heraklion Arrow 2 6
Agios Nikolaos Arrow 2 6
Sitia Arrow 2 6
Rhodes-Maritsa Military Airport MEADS 6
Karpathos Island MEADS 6
Maleme Military Airport MEADS 6
Gavdos Island MEADS 6
Kythira Island MEADS 6
Santorini Island MEADS 6
Naxos Island MEADS 6
Kos Island MEADS 6
Nafplio MEADS 6
Kalamata MEADS 6
Zakynthos MEADS 6
Lefkada MEADS 6
Keratea MIN-104 Patriot PAC-3 16
Skyros MIN-104 Patriot PAC-3 16
Thessaloníki MIN-104 Patriot PAC-3 16
Tymbaki MIN-104 Patriot PAC-3 16
Sideros MIN-104 Patriot PAC-3 16
Tanagra MIN-104 Patriot PAC-3 16
Volos MIN-104 Patriot PAC-3 16
Kalabaka MIN-104 Patriot PAC-3 16
Xanthi MIN-104 Patriot PAC-3 16
Alexandroupolis MIN-104 Patriot PAC-3 16
Lesvos Island MIN-104 Patriot PAC-3 16
Samos Island MIN-104 Patriot PAC-3 16
Dodecanese Islands SA-8 Gecko 4 10 batteries spread out across the archipelago
Nationwide Deployments
  • The Royal Hellenic Armed Force's cross-branch air defense network will be deployed in full to protect important cities and other strategic locations in Greece. The tiered system's aims is to destroy any aircraft and especially ballistic missiles before they reach the Greek Mainland. The air defense assets are authorized to engage all Egyptian military aircraft, missile and other aerial threats upon first spotting them. If in range air defense assets are also to engage aerial threats engaging coalition ships

Radar and Observation.

Site Type of Radar Notes
NATO Integrated Air Defense System Sites Lockheed-Martin AN/FPS-117 AESA Radar At least one radar at every remtoe radar station and most likely more throughout the network.
Crete Stentor Groound Surveilance Radar 10 radars
Crete Decca D-110 Radar System
Greek Islands Bor-A550 Ground and Coastal Surveilance Radar 40 radars
Greek Islands MARGOT XXL Camera-Observation System 20 systems
  • The Royal Hellenic Armed Force's extensive radar and surveillance network will be used to actively monitor Egyptian air, missile, naval and other threats and to rapidly organize responses against them. All data will be shared with coalition partners and other NATO/EU states should the situation be deemed a threat to them. Operations will be handled from the various Area Control Centers and will be subordinated by

Israel will send

50 F-35 (25 in reserve)
20 F-3
300 Perseus Missiles (100 in reserve)
Conventional (Join for Phase 2):
F-15E 20
F-16 300
IAI Eitan 45
IAI Herop 40
Elbit Hermes 900 50
Elbit Hermes 450 50
IAIHarop 71
KC-46 3
Naval:
Sa'ar 5-Class 3
Sa'ar 4.5-Class 8
Dolphin Class Submarine 3
Sa'ar 72 Class Corvette 3
Sa'ar 6-Class Corvette 7
Canada will contribute the following:
  • HMCS St.Johns (Maple Class)
  • HMCS Charlottetown (Maple Class)
  • HMCS Windsor II (Fox Class AIP Hunter-Killer)
  • HMCS Corner Brook II (Fox Class AIP Hunter-Killer)
  • 25 CF-23 Aircraft (Gripen NG)

Germany will commit:

  • 80 Eurofighter Tycoon's
  • 60 Panavia Tornado
  • 2 Type 212 attack submarines
  • 1 Sachsen-class destroyers
  • 3 Braunschweig-class corvettes

The United States will commit

Planes

Three Fighter wings each composed of:
Name Type Number Loadout Link
KC-10A Aerial Refueler 2 Default Here
A-10C Attack 10 Default Here
F-16 Multirole 10 Default Here
F-15 Fighter 10 Default Here
F-22A Fighter 10 Default Here
F-35A Multirole 10 Default Here
E-3 AWACS 2 Default Here
E-4B EW 2 Default Here
Two Bomber wings each composed of:
Name Type Number Loadout Link
KC-135 Aerial Refueler 2 Default Here
B-1B Lancer Bomber 5 Default Here
B-2A Spirit Bomber 3 Default Here
B-52H Bomber 5 Default Here
E-3 AWACS 2 Default Here
50 RQ-170 Sentinels

Ships

2 CSGs in the Med and 2 CSGs in the Red Sea. Each with:
Type Class Number Loadout Link
Carrier Nimitz 1 Default Here
Carrier GRF 1 Default Here
Cruiser Ticonderoga 2 Default Here
Destroyer Arleigh Burke F3 6 Default Here
Fast Frigate Independence Class 1 Default Here
Fast Frigate Freedom Class 1 Default Here
Avenger Mine Countermeasures ship 2 Default Here
Attack Submarine Virginia Class 2 Default Here
Attack Submarine Seawolf Class 1 Default Here
Ballistic Submarine Ohio Class 1 Default Here
Aircraft in each CSG:
Name Type Number Loadout Link
F/A 18E/F Multirole 15 Default Here
F-35C Multirole 30 Default Here
EA-18G EW 5 Default Here
E-2C/D AWACS 5 Default Here
M-60S Multi mission 8 Default Here
MH-60R Multi Mission 12 Default Here
C-2 Cargo 2 Default Here
MQ-8B Patrol 5 Default Here
All Forces will be resupplied by the US Military Sealift Command
Royal Navy
  • HMS Prince of Wales(Queen Elizabeth-class aircraft carrier) - 35 x F-35B, 15 x Wildcat HMA2, 900 x Royal Marines
  • HMS Albion(Albion-class Amphibious transport dock) - 2 x Chinook HC Mk.6, 710 x Royal Marines, 15 x Viking, 52 x Jackal MWMIK
  • HMS Bulwark(Albion-class Amphibious transport dock) - 2 x Chinook HC Mk.6, 710 x Royal Marines, 15 x Viking, 52 x Jackal MWMIK
  • HMS London(Amphibious Assault Ship) - 2 x F-35B, 10 x Chinook HC Mk.6, 18 x Merlin HM2, 1,200 Royal Marines, 20 x Viking, 45 x Ajax, 45 x FV4034 Challenger 2 CILDV
  • HMS Edinburgh(Amphibious Assault Ship) - 2 x F-35B, 10 x Chinook HC Mk.6, 18 x Merlin HM2, 1,200 Royal Marines, 20 x Viking, 45 x Ajax, 45 x Foxhound
  • HMS Cardiff(Amphibious Assault Ship) - 2 x F-35B, 10 x Chinook HC Mk.6, 18 x Merlin HM2, 1,200 Royal Marines,20 x Viking, 45 x Ajax,45 x FV4034 Challenger 2 CILDV
  • HMS Daring(Daring-class Destroyer) - 2 x Wildcat HMA2, 44 x Royal Maines
  • HMS Dragon(Daring-class Destroyer) - 2 x Wildcat HMA2, 44 x Royal Maines
  • HMS Defender(Daring-class Destroyer) - 2 x Wildcat HMA2, 44 x Royal Maines
  • HMS Diamond(Daring-class Destroyer) - 2 x Wildcat HMA2, 44 x Royal Maines
  • HMS Kent(Duke-class Frigate) - 1 x Merlin HM2, 20 x Royal Marines
  • HMS Iron Duke(Duke-class Frigate) - 1 x Merlin HM2, 20 x Royal Marines
  • HMS Westminster(Duke-class Frigate) - 1 x Merlin HM2, 20 x Royal Marines
  • HMS Portland(Duke-class Frigate) - 1 x Merlin HM2, 20 x Royal Marines
  • HMS St Albans(Duke-class Frigate) - 1 x Merlin HM2, 20 x Royal Marines
  • HMS Richmond(Duke-class Frigate) - 1 x Merlin HM2, 20 x Royal Marines
  • HMS Sommerset(Duke-class Frigate) - 1 x Merlin HM2, 20 x Royal Marines
  • HMS Plymouth(Plymouth-class Frigate) - 1 x Wildcat HMA2, 90 x Royal Marines
  • HMS Portsmouth(Plymouth-class Frigate) - 1 x Wildcat HMA2, 90 x Royal Marines
  • HMS Great Yarmouth(Plymouth-class Frigate) - 1 x Wildcat HMA2, 90 x Royal Marines
  • HMS Ramsey(Sandown-class Minehunter)
  • HMS Blyth(Sandown-class Minehunter)
  • HMS Bangor(Sandown-class Minehunter)
  • HMS Shoreham(Sandown-class Minehunter)
  • HMS Enterprise(Echo-class survey ship)
  • HMS Echo(Echo-class survey ship)
  • HMS Astute(Astute-class Attack Submarine)
  • HMS Ambush(Astute-class Attack Submarine)
  • HMS Artful(Astute-class Attack Submarine)
  • HMS Anson(Astute-class Attack Submarine)
  • HMS Agamemnon(Astute-class Attack Submarine)
Royal Air Force RAF Akrotiri and possibly Israel
  • 5 x Boeing E-3D AEW1 Sentry
  • 4 x Boeing RC-135W R1 RIVET JOINT
  • 46 x F-35A
  • 66 x Eurofighter Typhoon FGR4
  • 18 x Airbus Voyager
  • 8 x B-1B Lancer
  • 10 x MQ-9 Reaper
  • 10 x BAE Taranis

Phase One

The first target in this operation will be the Egyptian surveillance system. RIM-161s from the Ticoderoga cruisers will be used to take out all Egyptian communications and military satellites using coalition resorces to locate them.
Using real time UAV and ground asset surveillance combined with satellite surveillance, Ship and Submarine launched cruise missiles including the US submarine packs and B-2A Spirit stealth bombers will target the following:
  • The nuclear, biological and chemical production and storage facilities
  • Coastal Defense batteries
  • Any anti air assets
  • Any missile launchers
  • Military communications hubs

Phase Two

After the 99% of the above assets are destroyed using long range missiles and stealth, all other bombers will then participate in mopping up the remnants. Their objective will be to break down any military capabilities of Egypt and to eliminate all ability of response by the Egyptian Army. UAVs will be deployed within Egypt to be able to be used alongside Intelligence, satellite and other data to seek out Egyptian armour and defence systems. Non-stealth aircraft will now also be used in ground attack missions to eliminate these targets. Phase 2 will be designed to clear the way for ground operations. We aim to eliminate at least 75% of Egypt’s armour and artillery and prevent any cohesive attack on the coalition forces. During these operations, a propaganda war will be waged (on social media and other platforms) to show the government as weak and try to establish an internal pro-West opposition based off the successes of the Arab Spring. There isn’t really much hope for this operation as the kind of organisation required is difficult in an authoritarian state such as Egypt. However, this should stir up the kind of feelings necessary to help the population start resisting the hated government.
Phase Two will also involve the Navies, led by the Carrier strike groups moving closer to Egypt and engaging any Egyptian vessels discovered in ports or in their way. Once close enough, air superiority missions from the carrier groups and land based aircraft will be run over Egypt's skies and interdiction missions carried out by strike aircraft against Egyptian columns and logistics dumps
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2016.05.20 21:41 ShaunaDorothy Le soutien de la gauche à l’UE pave la voie à la montée des fascistes, en Grèce et en France - La Grèce dévastée par l’austérité de la troïka - A bas l’Union européenne et l’euro ! Pour des Etats-Unis socialistes d’Europe ! (Décembre 2015)

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Le Bolchévik nº 214 Décembre 2015
Nous reproduisons ci-après la présentation, revue et abrégée pour publication, de notre camarade Alexis Henri lors d’un meeting de la LTF à Paris sur la Grèce le 29 octobre dernier.
Chers camarades et amis,
Nous avions une camarade du Groupe trotskyste de Grèce (TOE) qui devait venir d’Athènes mais n’a malheureusement pas pu se libérer. Du coup c’est moi qui vais vous faire une présentation sur la Grèce ; celle-ci ne manquera pas de faire des allers-retours sur la France. J’espère que cela ne vous décevra pas. Nous sommes réunis à peine un mois après les élections du 20 septembre dernier qui ont reconduit au gouvernement la coalition de Syriza et des Grecs Indépendants, un petit parti d’extrême droite – et alors même que les annonces de grèves et luttes se multiplient contre le nouveau gouvernement qui taille dans le vif en mettant en œuvre consciencieusement les ordres des impérialistes.
Le 21 et le 22 octobre, les dockers ont fait une grève de deux jours contre la privatisation du port du Pirée et de celui de Salonique. Début novembre les marins ont annoncé une grève de trois jours. Les étudiants comptent également entrer en lutte début novembre contre l’augmentation des frais de scolarité imposée par la troïka. Le 12 novembre se tiendra la première journée d’action en forme de grève nationale sous le gouvernement Syriza (la date n’est pas encore tout à fait certaine). Les syndicats du privé et du public se sont joints à l’appel initié par la tendance du KKE [Parti communiste de Grèce] dans les syndicats.
Rien de tout cela n’est annoncé dans l’Humanité. Le PCF a salué la victoire de Syriza, qu’il avait activement soutenu pendant la campagne électorale et pendant toutes ces dernières années, y compris au moment même où Alexis Tsipras, le chef du gouvernement capitaliste, signait une capitulation en règle face à Angela Merkel et François Hollande en juillet dernier. Nos camarades en Grèce avaient au contraire au mois de juillet appelé à former des comités d’action ouvriers pour rejeter la capitulation de Tsipras et dire non à l’Union européenne et à l’euro, et ils ont refusé de donner le moindre soutien aux populistes bourgeois de Syriza ou à ses frondeurs de l’Unité populaire.
Le résultat le plus frappant de ces élections a été une montée spectaculaire de l’abstention. Syriza lui-même a perdu 300 000 voix par rapport au mois de janvier, soit un de ses électeurs sur sept. Mais ce discrédit relatif des principaux partis parlementaires de la bourgeoisie n’a pas profité au KKE qui de son côté a perdu plus de 35 000 voix.
C’est sans doute le prix qu’il paie pour sa trahison de juillet dernier quand il avait appelé à voter nul lors du référendum sur le plan d’austérité de la troïka impérialiste (UE, FMI, BCE), au lieu de mobiliser les électeurs pour un « non » retentissant aux diktats de l’Union européenne. Plus encore que toute sa politique de ces dernières années, cela l’a empêché de pouvoir se présenter comme une véritable alternative ouvrière à l’austérité de la troïka.
Et cette trahison du KKE est la raison pour laquelle nos camarades grecs du TOE ont refusé de voter pour lui lors des élections de septembre, contrairement aux élections de 2012 et de janvier dernier. Nous avions alors appelé à un soutien critique pour lui car il s’opposait à toute alliance avec Syriza et à tout soutien à un gouvernement Syriza, et car il s’opposait à l’Union européenne ; bien entendu il s’agissait d’un soutien critique, et nos camarades n’ont pas cessé de polémiquer contre le nationalisme et le chauvinisme de ces réformistes.
Unité populaire : Syriza bis
Quant au groupe qui a scissionné de Syriza au mois d’août dernier, l’Unité populaire, elle a fait moins de 3 % et n’est donc pas représentée au nouveau parlement. Il s’agit d’une formation populiste bourgeoise à laquelle nous sommes tout autant opposés par principe qu’à Syriza. Ils étaient des dirigeants de Syriza quand ceux-ci sont arrivés au pouvoir en janvier 2015. Ils sont devenus ministres dans le nouveau gouvernement bourgeois, ils ont voté pour l’accord du 20 février avec la troïka impérialiste où le gouvernement Tsipras s’engageait à mener jusqu’au bout les attaques déjà prévues par le gouvernement de droite précédent. Ils ont coulé les tentatives du KKE de soumettre des motions au parlement refusant un nouveau plan d’austérité.
Ensuite les frondeurs grecs ont certes voté contre la capitulation de Tsipras du 13 juillet face à l’UE de Hollande et Merkel, mais cela ne les a pas empêchés de continuer à déclarer sur tous les toits qu’ils ne soutenaient peut-être pas l’accord mais qu’ils soutenaient toujours le gouvernement. Ils ont finalement rompu avec Syriza uniquement quand Tsipras a annoncé de nouvelles élections de façon à les remplacer par des députés plus « godillots » qu’eux. Et encore l’Unité populaire s’est alors présentée fondamentalement comme la continuatrice authentique du Syriza qui s’était présenté en janvier dernier, avec les résultats qu’on connaît.
Autrement dit, ils ont un programme bourgeois pro-UE, même si à l’intérieur de l’Unité populaire il y a certains militants connus, comme Costas Lapavitsas, qui sont pour une sortie de la Grèce de l’euro. Ce sont des populistes bourgeois au même titre que Syriza (encore que je doute que l’on puisse qualifier de très populiste la mise en œuvre des mesures de la troïka dans laquelle se spécialise maintenant Syriza).
Tout cela n’est pas reluisant et les électeurs grecs ne s’y sont pas trompés, mais cela n’a pas empêché le NPA [Nouveau Parti anticapitaliste] de se passionner pour cette nouvelle formation (avant de s’en désintéresser en voyant que la mayonnaise ne prenait pas). Les militants du NPA entretiennent des liens à la fois avec l’Unité populaire, où ils ont des camarades, et avec le groupe concurrent Antarsya. Entre l’Unité populaire et Antarsya il n’y a pas de quoi se déchirer, l’Anticapitaliste lui-même (3 septembre) ayant rapporté qu’Antarsya « s’est prononcé publiquement pour une campagne commune » avec l’Unité populaire. Comme l’Unité populaire est pour l’Union européenne (avec ou sans l’euro), cela montre que l’opposition d’Antarsya à l’UE et au capitalisme est complètement bidon, et donc aussi l’opposition de tous les « anti-UE » et « anticapitalistes » qui soutiennent Antarsya. Pour eux il s’agit tout au plus d’une question tactique au gré de leur perception d’opportunités électorales.
Vous avez par exemple un groupe comme la « tendance claire » (l’une des tendances du NPA – il y en a une demi-douzaine – qui se déchirent pour le contrôle de la direction du parti et de la caisse). Alors eux, qui se déclarent contre l’UE et l’euro, se sont lamentés que le NPA soutienne seulement l’Unité populaire pro-UE et qu’il ne soutienne pas en même temps aussi Antarsya. Ils ont dit à propos d’Antarsya, qui je vous le rappelle voulait faire campagne commune avec les populistes bourgeois de l’Unité populaire : « Mais le devoir des anticapitalistes en France est d’exprimer leur solidarité politique à l’égard de leurs homologues grecs, même si on peut discuter et contester leurs choix tactiques lors de l’élection du 20 septembre » (Au CLAIR de la lutte n° 27, automne 2015).
La gauche française au chevet de l’Union européenne
Pour nous la destruction de la Grèce par les diktats du FMI et de l’Union européenne ne fait qu’apporter une nouvelle preuve tragique montrant pourquoi il faut s’opposer par principe à l’Union européenne. Nous sommes contre depuis le début, y compris sous ses avatars précédents de Communauté économique européenne [CEE], etc. A l’origine elle avait été conçue comme un ciment économique pour faire tenir ensemble les pays européens de l’OTAN, cette alliance militaire capitaliste antisoviétique.
Après la contre-révolution capitaliste en Union soviétique au début des années 1990, la CEE est devenue l’Union européenne. Il s’agit d’un bloc intrinsèquement instable entre Etats capitalistes rivaux pour mieux exploiter leur propre classe ouvrière et pour faire concurrence à leurs rivaux sur le marché mondial. L’impérialisme allemand a gagné un avantage considérable avec la destruction et l’annexion de l’Etat ouvrier déformé est-allemand il y a 25 ans, et avec les mesures anti-ouvrières du chancelier social-démocrate Schröder dans les années 2000. Maintenant la domination de l’impérialisme allemand s’affirme de plus en plus non seulement sur les pays qui, notamment en Europe de l’Est et en Grèce, ont de plus en plus un statut dépendant voire semi-colonial, mais même par rapport à l’impérialisme français. La crise économique qui a éclaté en 2008 a mis au jour les différences de dynamisme de ces différents pays, et les tensions nationalistes augmentent de plus en plus. Nous disons : A bas l’Union européenne et son instrument financier l’euro ! Pour des Etats-Unis socialistes d’Europe !
En France un nombre croissant d’idéologues bourgeois, y compris le populiste de gauche Jean-Luc Mélenchon, commencent à prendre leurs distances avec l’UE, ou plutôt avec certains aspects de celle-ci (pour le chauvin Mélenchon, ce qui est le plus troublant c’est comment la France est maintenant dominée par l’Allemagne dans l’UE). Mais ils restent des voix relativement isolées à gauche ; je vous renvoie à notre article dans le Bolchévik de septembre là-dessus.
Prenez par exemple Lutte ouvrière [LO]. Ils insistent aujourd’hui que Tsipras est un homme politique bourgeois, alors qu’il y a 9 mois ils félicitaient le peuple grec de l’avoir élu et faisaient des plans sur ce que Tsipras allait faire pour aider le peuple grec en obtenant des milliards de l’UE. Ils ont un article en ce sens dans leur revue pour les cadres Lutte de classe (septembre-octobre 2015) où ils reconnaissent que « En tant que communistes révolutionnaires, nous avons exprimé notre solidarité avec Tsipras dans la mesure où il s’opposait à ceux qui se faisaient les huissiers du grand capital. »
Cette formule rappelle peut-être à certains quelques cadres bolchéviks russes (dont Staline) qui, avant l’arrivée de Lénine en Russie en avril 1917, voulaient soutenir le gouvernement provisoire bourgeois issu de la révolution de Février, « dans la mesure où celui-ci combat la réaction et la contre-révolution » (cité par Trotsky dans l’Histoire de la révolution russe). Mais bien entendu ce serait enjoliver terriblement LO que de la comparer aux bolchéviks de droite de 1917. Tout soutien politique à un gouvernement bourgeois est une trahison de classe, et Lénine combattit les partisans de Staline avec ses fameuses « Thèses d’avril » qui orientèrent le Parti bolchévique vers la perspective d’une deuxième révolution, celle qui eut effectivement lieu en octobre.
La Grèce doit sortir de l’UE et de l’euro, sans quoi elle ne peut s’affranchir de la spirale de la dette et du pillage impérialiste. L’exemple de l’Argentine et de l’Islande montre que si l’on refuse de payer ses créanciers et qu’on dévalue, c’est peut-être douloureux sur le moment mais cela peut rapidement conduire à une reprise économique et à une diminution du chômage.
Et pourtant LO a une nouvelle fois mis en garde contre une sortie de la zone euro. Ils insistent : « Mais sortir de la zone euro ne permet pas de s’affranchir de la domination du capital financier et le retour à la drachme comme monnaie nationale ne met pas fin à l’oppression et à la domination qui résultent de toute l’organisation impérialiste de l’économie mondiale. » Bien sûr que cela n’affranchirait pas d’un coup la Grèce du système impérialiste mondial.
LO cherche en fait à se cacher derrière le fait que certains économistes bourgeois, comme Costas Lapavitsas ou Jacques Sapir, sont pour un « Grexit » (la sortie de la Grèce de la zone euro) car ces derniers considèrent que c’est la meilleure manière de préserver les profits capitalistes. Mais en refusant de s’opposer à l’euro, LO donne un soutient indirect à sa propre bourgeoisie pour opprimer la Grèce. Les marxistes sont tout sauf indifférents au pillage financier de petits pays par des pays impérialistes. Tout comme Trotsky défendait le Mexique capitaliste en 1938 contre le pillage de l’impérialisme britannique, de même nos sections européennes sont pour une lutte de la classe ouvrière pour paralyser la main criminelle des impérialistes de l’UE dans le pillage actuel de la Grèce.
Nous partons d’un point de vue radicalement différent de Lapavitsas pour nous prononcer en faveur de la sortie de l’euro. Nous avons expliqué dans un article que nous avons publié dans le dernier Bolchévik : « Mais cela créerait des conditions plus favorables pour que la classe ouvrière puisse lutter pour ses propres intérêts. De plus, la sortie de la Grèce de l’UE porterait un coup à l’existence même de ce bloc dominé par les impérialistes. Ce qu’il faut, ce sont des Etats-Unis socialistes d’Europe ! »
La vérité, c’est qu’une monnaie commune à divers Etats n’est pas viable à long terme. Pouvoir frapper sa propre monnaie est une prérogative fondamentale d’un Etat ; c’est un élément constitutif de sa souveraineté nationale. Et plus généralement l’UE n’est pas viable car le capitalisme est basé sur l’Etat-nation, et toute alliance entre puissances capitalistes est fondamentalement éphémère. Il est utopique de croire que l’on puisse faire disparaître la rivalité historique entre la France et l’Allemagne, qui est la maîtresse naturelle de l’Europe continentale capitaliste depuis l’unification du pays sous Bismarck au XIXe siècle. L’actuelle soi-disant réconciliation franco-allemande finira dans les poubelles de l’histoire comme la précédente, celle entre Pétain et Hitler – la seule alternative étant que les ouvriers prennent eux-mêmes le pouvoir.
Les tensions entre la France et l’Allemagne n’ont fait que s’exacerber depuis l’éclatement de la crise économique internationale il y a 7 ans ; elles préparent la voie à une rupture acrimonieuse et à l’explosion de l’UE. D’ailleurs si la politique extérieure de la France s’est autant rapprochée de celle des Etats-Unis depuis cette période, c’est moins pour cause de tropisme américain personnel de Sarkozy et Hollande que parce que la France doit se rapprocher des Etats-Unis car elle est trop faible pour tenir tête seule à l’Allemagne dans le « concert » impérialiste.
Pourtant l’impérialisme français demeure à ce jour favorable à l’Union européenne, car il continue de profiter comme second couteau de la mise en esclavage du Sud et de l’Est de l’Europe. On a parlé la semaine dernière d’un rapprochement franco-grec avec le voyage de Hollande à Athènes. Hollande cherchait à profiter des tensions gréco-allemandes après que Merkel avait voulu ordonner aux Grecs d’accepter des patrouilles communes avec les Turcs pour policer la mer Egée. En fait Hollande visitait la Grèce pour positionner les trusts français, notamment la société Vinci, pour la privatisation du réseau routier grec, sachant que l’entreprise publique allemande Fraport a déjà mis la main l’été dernier pour une bouchée de pain sur les aéroports grecs. Il est du devoir du mouvement ouvrier français de s’opposer à ce pillage impérialiste et de lutter pour l’annulation pure et simple de la dette grecque.
De crise de la dette grecque en crise de la dette grecque, la rupture de la zone euro et de l’UE est sans cesse reportée, mais elle risque de n’en être que plus brutale, et c’est pour cette échéance que se préparent les fascistes du Front national. Ils tirent de plus en plus parti du discrédit de l’UE et de la haine qu’elle suscite. Les travailleurs voient chaque jour comment les « directives de Bruxelles » sont avancées pour justifier le démantèlement de leurs acquis au nom de la « concurrence libre et non faussée ». En l’absence d’une opposition internationaliste à l’UE, c’est l’opposition nationaliste qui l’emportera et non un utopique soutien internationaliste à l’UE, même s’il est critique, comme le propose le NPA ou LO.
Tensions dans l’UE et montée des nationalistes d’extrême droite et des fascistes
Quant aux fascistes d’Aube dorée, ils ont gagné un député aux dernières élections tout en perdant quelques milliers de voix seulement. Ils s’enracinent comme le troisième parti du pays dans les élections, alors même qu’ils avaient, dans les derniers jours de la campagne électorale, revendiqué la responsabilité politique pour le meurtre de Pavlos Fyssas, un métallo syndicaliste et rappeur engagé à gauche tué juste deux ans auparavant. Le KKE, qui a obtenu plus de 100 000 voix dans la région de l’Attique où se trouvent Athènes et le Pirée, n’a mobilisé que quelques centaines de personnes à travers son bras dans les syndicats, le PAME, pour marquer les deux ans de cet assassinat la semaine des élections.
Pour stopper les fascistes il faut des mobilisations de front unique du mouvement ouvrier, comme nos camarades en Grèce ne cessent de l’avancer. C’est une perspective diamétralement opposée aussi à celle de réformistes comme le SEK (Parti socialiste ouvrier, lié au SWP britannique et faisant partie de la coalition Antarsya). Le SEK demande sans arrêt à l’Etat capitaliste d’emprisonner les fascistes et de les désarmer. Trotsky disait en 1936, en parlant d’hypothétiques demandes de mesures gouvernementales contre les fascistes :
« Toutes les lois d’exception, tous les pleins pouvoirs extraordinaires, etc. seront utilisés contre le prolétariat. […] « Le mot d’ordre de dissolution et de désarmement des bandes fascistes par l’Etat (les social-démocrates allemands criaient : “L’Etat doit agir !”) et le vote de mesures analogues sont réactionnaires de bout en bout. Cela reviendrait à sacrifier la peau du prolétariat pour en faire un fouet dont l’arbitre bonapartiste de service se servira peut-être pour caresser tout doucement, une fois en passant, le postérieur des fascistes. »
Le fascisme, c’est une mobilisation de la petite bourgeoisie ruinée (ou menacée de ruine), manipulée par des agents du grand capital pour massacrer les immigrés, les Juifs et les homosexuels, et pour détruire le mouvement ouvrier organisé. La bourgeoisie n’hésite pas à recourir à ces assassins si elle considère que les illusions parlementaristes ne suffisent plus à endormir les travailleurs et les paralyser, et qu’il faut avoir recours aux méthodes de la guerre civile pour empêcher les ouvriers de lutter pour leur propre pouvoir. Les fascistes servent les mêmes maîtres que l’Etat capitaliste, et c’est pourquoi il est non seulement illusoire de demander à ce dernier de désarmer les premiers, cela détourne du nécessaire : mobiliser en masse la classe ouvrière dans un front unique, avec derrière elle tous les opprimés, pour balayer cette racaille avant qu’elle ne nous écrase.
La pitoyable mobilisation du KKE pour Pavlos Fyssas montre que ce n’est pas la perspective du KKE, alors même qu’il a l’influence dans la classe ouvrière et la puissance sociale pour prendre l’initiative de ce genre de mobilisation de masse. Et il justifie son inaction en disant qu’il faut simplement isoler les fascistes et que de toute façon cette gangrène est inhérente au système capitaliste. Mais en réalité il n’en découle absolument pas qu’il ne faille rien faire. Si on attend que les fascistes prennent le pouvoir, il est ensuite trop tard pour lutter contre eux quand on se retrouve dans un camp de concentration ou devant un peloton d’exécution. Il faut lutter pour mobiliser la classe ouvrière et les opprimés maintenant, tout en pointant du doigt qu’on ne peut en rester là et que pour en finir une bonne fois pour toutes avec cette vermine raciste il faut renverser le système capitaliste tout entier.
Les fascistes grecs ont déjà tué ces dernières années un certain nombre d’immigrés. Dans certains quartiers d’Athènes ils terrorisent au grand jour les sans-papiers dans la rue. La crise est en train de s’aggraver avec l’afflux de centaines de milliers de réfugiés qui transitent par la Grèce en essayant de rejoindre l’Europe du Nord et notamment l’Allemagne.
Pleins droits de citoyenneté pour tous les immigrés !
De son coté le gouvernement Syriza a ouvert courant octobre dans l’île de Lesbos le premier des hot spots prescrits aux lisières de l’UE pour organiser la politique d’immigration et de déportation à l’échelle de l’Union européenne en fonction des besoins négociés par les différents Etats, c’est-à-dire en fonction surtout de ce qu’impose Berlin. Dimanche dernier Tsipras a accepté à Bruxelles de construire des camps de concentration pour 30 000 personnes immédiatement, et 20 000 de plus l’année prochaine.
Bien sûr il ne s’agit pas d’un tournant fondamental dans la politique de Syriza. Nous avions publié en mars dans le Bolchévik une photo montant les flics grecs attaquant des manifestants devant un centre de rétention non loin d’Athènes. A cette époque l’étoile Syriza brillait encore au firmament de la gauche européenne. Nos camarades en Grèce, comme nous le faisons ici nous-mêmes, s’opposent à toutes les expulsions et exigent les pleins droits de citoyenneté pour tous ceux qui sont parvenus à mettre les pieds sur le territoire.
Vous pouvez vous douter que la gauche grecque, qui s’est retrouvée à la botte de Syriza au début de l’année avec son engagement pro-européen, ne s’est pas distinguée de la gauche française sur cette question. Elle demande, tout comme le NPA ou LO, en long et en large l’ouverture des frontières. Il n’y a pas là de quoi faire froncer les sourcils aux racistes grecs anti-immigrés, vu qu’il s’agit essentiellement d’ouvrir les frontières de la Grèce pour que les réfugiés puissent quitter le pays afin de se diriger vers l’Allemagne. Dans le dernier Bolchévik nous polémiquons contre nos opposants qui unanimement réclament l’ouverture des frontières ; ils propagent ainsi des illusions qu’on pourrait abolir les frontières sous le capitalisme. Mais l’Etat-nation (ou un Etat multinational prison des peuples pour tout le monde sauf la nation dominante) est la règle sous le capitalisme, et cela ne va pas sans flics et gardes-frontières. Les frontières entre Etats ne seront liquidées que sous le socialisme, après une série de révolutions ouvrières.
Le KKE ne se distingue guère du reste de la gauche réformiste sur cette question. Il se prononce en particulier contre les accords de Dublin de reconduite des demandeurs d’asile au pays d’entrée dans l’UE. Ca ne coûte pas cher de se focaliser sur Dublin ; non seulement ces accords sont inapplicables depuis que les réfugiés passent par centaines de milliers par la Grèce, mais l’impérialisme allemand lui-même les a déclarés morts et enterrés. Dublin a été remplacé dans les faits par l’accueil d’une partie des réfugiés en Allemagne et par le renforcement généralisé des barrières aux frontières y compris intra-européennes et, pour la France, à hauteur de Vintimille et de Calais. Ainsi la France, au lieu de renvoyer comme auparavant les immigrés tunisiens en Italie, a tout simplement fermé la frontière avec l’Italie pour ceux qui ont un profil de réfugiés et renforcé le bouclage de la frontière côté Calais. Au moins 20 personnes ont été tuées ces derniers mois près de l’accès au tunnel de la Manche.
Si l’Allemagne a accueilli plus de réfugiés, ce n’est pas parce que le Quatrième Reich est moins raciste que la Cinquième République, mais parce que l’Allemagne a une relative pénurie de main-d’œuvre et de jeunes, et qu’elle compte utiliser un nouvel afflux de travailleurs cherchant désespérément de quoi vivre, afin de mener de nouvelles attaques contre l’ensemble de la classe ouvrière et notamment contre la journée de 8 heures. Nos camarades allemands rapportent que dans le journal bourgeois Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung on prône de profiter de la levée des barrières à la frontière pour lever des « barrières » comme le salaire minimum et le coût du prêt de main-d’œuvre, à un moment où il y a un certain regain de luttes de classe en Allemagne qui ont abouti à quelques augmentations de salaires. Nos camarades en Allemagne exigent, et nous faisons de même ici : « Pour la syndicalisation de tous les travailleurs immigrés ; à travail égal salaire égal ; partage du travail entre toutes les mains sans perte de salaire et avec une réduction drastique du temps de travail ! A bas le prêt de main-d’œuvre, les contrats de chantier et la sous-traitance ! »
Pendant ce temps les attaques terroristes nazies se multiplient en Allemagne contre les locaux abritant des réfugiés. Nos camarades appellent à des groupes de défense ouvriers pour protéger ces locaux. Et de même ici les provocations racistes se multiplient contre les immigrés autour de Calais, sur fond de montée du FN qui fait une violente campagne électorale sur le thème « arrêtons l’immigration » ; là aussi le mouvement ouvrier devrait se mobiliser pour défendre les immigrés et faire tâter du pavé à la racaille fasciste.
Se focaliser sur les accords de Dublin, c’est dénoncer la partie pour éviter de se prononcer sur le tout ; c’est se placer dans le cadre social-démocrate d’une Europe plus gentille en demandant que les gens puissent se déplacer et s’installer où ils veulent. Cela revient à enjoliver les accords de Schengen avec le mythe libéral qu’en fait les frontières sont ouvertes entre Etats membres de ces accords et qu’elles doivent le rester ou le redevenir. Les accords de Dublin permettent aux gouvernements de décider où les demandes d’asile vont être prises en considération, c’est-à-dire qui va arrêter les réfugiés et qui va les déporter. Nous ne prenons pas part à ce genre de débat ; nous nous opposons à toutes les expulsions de tous ces pays, quelle que soit la législation utilisée pour les justifier. Nous nous opposons à l’Union européenne dans son ensemble, et non pas simplement à l’un ou l’autre des accords passés entre Etats membres.
Le KKE au contraire demande « la fourniture immédiate de documents de voyage à tous les réfugiés et immigrés qui veulent se rendre dans d’autres Etats membres de l’UE ». En ce sens ils ne sont pas différents du reste de la gauche grecque ou française, y compris dans les illusions qu’ils diffusent pour l’ouverture des frontières des pays impérialistes.
On nous a rétorqué ces dernières semaines quand nous vendions notre journal qu’en attendant, il y a urgence et qu’il faut faire quelque chose pour les réfugiés. Nous ne sommes pas en position de faire grand-chose sauf de lutter contre les illusions dans un impérialisme « humanitaire ». Pour l’impérialisme les réfugiés sont simplement une question de politique de main-d’œuvre ou une question de négociations entre puissances sur les avantages réciproques à tirer de telle ou telle décision pour la position internationale du pays.
La lutte de classe continue en Grèce (et ici comme on le voit avec la lutte des Air France). Malgré les trahisons de sa direction, la classe ouvrière grecque continue de lutter contre les attaques des impérialistes et des capitalistes grecs. Nos camarades en Grèce vont intervenir dans les mobilisations ouvrières qui s’annoncent en mettant en avant notamment leur appel à des comités d’action ouvriers pour stopper les attaques de la troïka, une perspective de lutte de classe extraparlementaire.
Evidemment pour les réformistes du KKE ou d’Antarsya ces grèves doivent simplement servir de soupape à la colère ouvrière. Toute leur stratégie politique vise en fin de compte à dévoyer la lutte de classe vers une nouvelle combinaison parlementaire basée sur la collaboration de classes. Pour la « gauche de la gauche », après le PASOK cela a été Syriza, et maintenant l’Unité populaire. Depuis la chute de la junte des colonels il y a quarante ans cette pseudo-gauche a semé les illusions successivement dans diverses formations bourgeoises populistes. Quant au KKE, sa perspective de « pouvoir populaire » renvoie dans le meilleur des cas à sa politique pendant la résistance et la guerre civile. Il y a une continuité fondamentale entre la politique actuelle du KKE et celle qu’il avait suivie dans les années 1940, et qui s’était révélée un piège mortel. Je vous renvoie à notre article sur la guerre civile grecque dans le numéro actuel de Spartacist édition française [n° 42, été 2015].
Notre tâche c’est d’assimiler et transmettre les leçons de la lutte de classe du passé afin que dans les prochaines luttes ici, en Grèce et ailleurs – car de nouvelles luttes révolutionnaires auront lieu –, se forge un nouveau parti ouvrier révolutionnaire. Un parti imprégné des leçons de la Révolution russe, la seule révolution ouvrière victorieuse de l’histoire. Un parti internationaliste – la petite taille même du prolétariat grec montre à quel point la solidarité internationale des travailleurs de toute l’Europe, et tout d’abord en Allemagne, en France et en Grande-Bretagne, est cruciale pour la lutte révolutionnaire en Grèce. Cela exige dès maintenant l’intervention d’un noyau internationaliste d’avant-garde. C’est cela notre tâche. C’est pour tirer les leçons du passé pour les luttes de demain que nous avons publié un grand article sur la guerre civile grecque. C’est dans cette optique que nous vous invitons à lire Spartacist, à vous abonner au Bolchévik, et je l’espère à rejoindre notre combat pour reforger la Quatrième Internationale trotskyste.
http://www.icl-fi.org/francais/lebol/214/grece.html
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2016.04.17 10:12 cruyff8 Pope Francis made an emotional visit into the heart of Europe’s migrant crisis on Saturday and took 12 Muslim refugees from Syria, including six children, with him back to Rome aboard the papal plane

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Advertisement Advertisement By JIM YARDLEY APRIL 16, 2016 MYTILENE, Greece — Pope Francis made an emotional visit into the heart of Europe’s migrant crisis on Saturday and took 12 Muslim refugees from Syria, including six children, with him back to Rome aboard the papal plane.“We hope that the world will heed these scenes of tragic and indeed desperate need, and respond in a way worthy of our common humanity.” While the announcement had the appearance of a surprise, Francis told reporters on the plane ride home that the relocation of the refugees had involved planning and paperwork by the governments of the Vatican, Italy and Greece. Advertisement The pope did not explain how the families had been chosen, but said: “They are guests of the Vatican.” Francis also showed reporters two drawings given to him by children in the Moria camp. While papal visits to refugee camps are not new, religious scholars said Francis’ rescue of the 12 Syrians sent an important signal that reflected his long history of affinity with the world’s most vulnerable, dating to his roots as a Jesuit priest in Argentina.During his February visit to Mexico, Francis prayed beneath a large cross erected in Ciudad Juárez , just footsteps from the border with the United States, and then celebrated Mass nearby, where he spoke about immigrants. Upon landing in Lesbos on Saturday, Francis held a brief private meeting with Greece’s prime minister, Alexis Tsipras , before traveling across the island to the detention center in Moria, where people are held as they await rulings on their asylum applications — or as they wait to be deported under a recent agreement struck between the European Union and Turkey to curb migration. At the migrants camp, Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew, the spiritual leader of the world’s Eastern Orthodox Christians, reminded Europeans and their leaders that Christians and others are judged on how they treat the powerless.“I hope that we never see children washing up on the shores of the Aegean Sea,” said Archbishop Ieronymos II, the leader of the Greek Orthodox Church, who called for a greater response by the United Nations. At the Moria center, Francis slowly walked down a line of migrants, many of them Muslims, greeting people as some waved handwritten signs with slogans like “Freedom of Movement.” Others propped their children above their shoulders or held out smartphones to photograph the pope.“Please, Father, bless me!” Francis and the other religious leaders offered special praise on Saturday for ordinary Greeks who have welcomed refugees, taken some into their homes or provided food and clothing, even as they endure hardship amid the country’s long-running financial crisis.Carlo Pioppi, a professor of church history at Santa Croce University in Rome, said the appearance by the three leaders showed they could put aside doctrinal and theological differences to highlight their shared concern about refugees.“Thousands are being held in squalid detention centers on the Greek Islands — this is the state of Europe in 2016,” Farah Karimi, the executive director of Oxfam Novib, the Dutch affiliate of Oxfam, said in the statement.
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2016.04.17 10:06 cruyff8 Pope Francis Takes 12 Refugees Back to Vatican After Trip to Greece

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Advertisement Advertisement By JIM YARDLEY APRIL 16, 2016 MYTILENE, Greece — Pope Francis made an emotional visit into the heart of Europe’s migrant crisis on Saturday and took 12 Muslim refugees from Syria, including six children, with him back to Rome aboard the papal plane.“We hope that the world will heed these scenes of tragic and indeed desperate need, and respond in a way worthy of our common humanity.” While the announcement had the appearance of a surprise, Francis told reporters on the plane ride home that the relocation of the refugees had involved planning and paperwork by the governments of the Vatican, Italy and Greece. Advertisement The pope did not explain how the families had been chosen, but said: “They are guests of the Vatican.” Francis also showed reporters two drawings given to him by children in the Moria camp. While papal visits to refugee camps are not new, religious scholars said Francis’ rescue of the 12 Syrians sent an important signal that reflected his long history of affinity with the world’s most vulnerable, dating to his roots as a Jesuit priest in Argentina.During his February visit to Mexico, Francis prayed beneath a large cross erected in Ciudad Juárez , just footsteps from the border with the United States, and then celebrated Mass nearby, where he spoke about immigrants. Upon landing in Lesbos on Saturday, Francis held a brief private meeting with Greece’s prime minister, Alexis Tsipras , before traveling across the island to the detention center in Moria, where people are held as they await rulings on their asylum applications — or as they wait to be deported under a recent agreement struck between the European Union and Turkey to curb migration. At the migrants camp, Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew, the spiritual leader of the world’s Eastern Orthodox Christians, reminded Europeans and their leaders that Christians and others are judged on how they treat the powerless.“I hope that we never see children washing up on the shores of the Aegean Sea,” said Archbishop Ieronymos II, the leader of the Greek Orthodox Church, who called for a greater response by the United Nations. At the Moria center, Francis slowly walked down a line of migrants, many of them Muslims, greeting people as some waved handwritten signs with slogans like “Freedom of Movement.” Others propped their children above their shoulders or held out smartphones to photograph the pope.“Please, Father, bless me!” Francis and the other religious leaders offered special praise on Saturday for ordinary Greeks who have welcomed refugees, taken some into their homes or provided food and clothing, even as they endure hardship amid the country’s long-running financial crisis.Carlo Pioppi, a professor of church history at Santa Croce University in Rome, said the appearance by the three leaders showed they could put aside doctrinal and theological differences to highlight their shared concern about refugees.“Thousands are being held in squalid detention centers on the Greek Islands — this is the state of Europe in 2016,” Farah Karimi, the executive director of Oxfam Novib, the Dutch affiliate of Oxfam, said in the statement.
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2016.04.06 17:58 dlgn13 [SMALL EFFORT] A sex columnist writes about fetishization. /r/berkeley reacts.

The thread in question.
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ya'll cant colonize deez nuts [+21]
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She looks white as fuck to me anyway. [+8]
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I won't date any non-whites now, just to balance out this article. [+5]
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